lanyard

Steinar · 10-12-2005, 04:16 AM

Greetings fellow forum members!

I picked up a few of these lanyards. They come from a german collector/seller.. Are they legit? ..value?
Pictures are a bit red for some reason.. and the marking "bcb 43" is quite hard to see.

Navy · 10-12-2005, 09:36 AM

I have never seen a lanyard in that configuration.

Tom A

lugerholsterrepair · 10-12-2005, 01:04 PM

Morgan, These are recently made...The wire swivel is a period design. Joechim Goertz sent me an original lanyard years ago with this type of wire swivel. The rest of the leather fastener and strap show a complete lack of research. The hollow rivets to hold on the fastening button and the square shoulder strap are not right. Also the fact that it has the marking "bcb 43" indicates to me an effort to decieve. This is surely not a Military accepted item nor was it issued.
As Tom says, I have never seen a lanyard such as this one. I have seen many original lanyards. Jerry Burney

Steinar · 10-17-2005, 08:49 AM

Thanks for the reply!
I will check this out.. the person who sold them to me claims the come from mr Goertz. I'f he reads the forum or not, I don't know..

Steinar

lugerholsterrepair · 10-17-2005, 12:10 PM

Steinar, I was in contact with Mr. Goertz for some time many years ago researching Luger Lanyards and he NEVER mentioned this lanyard. How could he? It wasn't made yet. Jerry Burney

John Sabato · 10-17-2005, 01:51 PM

Steiner... you are aware that Herr Goertz passed on many months ago...

Steinar · 10-18-2005, 03:37 PM

I'm in contact with the seller, refering to the information given in this forum and claiming money back! If things don't work out.. I might be tempted reveal the seller. Don't want you guys to make the same mistake I did..
Thanks, steinar

Aaron · 10-28-2005, 06:12 PM

The red color may have been caused by having your digital camera set for an incorrect light source. If you are using incandescent, fluorescent, or sunlight, the camera must be properly set for the type of light you are using.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-28-2005, 09:20 PM

Steinar, This guy has been offering these on eBay for a coup[le of months if I remember right.
Nothing wrong with a repro as long as it's done right. Unfortunately this in no way represents a German Military lanyard. Somebody's backyard fabrication. Hope you are able to retrieve your Kronar, or is it Euro's?. Jerry Burney

pisto · 10-28-2005, 09:44 PM

Have seen lots of them sold by one guy - all "Original" and in brand new condition. I suppose he let them produce somewhere in the East Europe.
DonÃ?Â´t know where this seller got this lanyard for that auction?

Steinar · 10-29-2005, 07:45 AM

It seems like I lost quite a few "kroner" on these lanyards..

The seller has gone underground.. Probably sitting in a hole with his beard counting all the money

But I have learned my lesson.. kinda sad that you cannot trust people all the time. Where I live, people don't lock their front doors, leave keys in the car when they park etc.. thats probably going to change in a few years I'm affraid. Anyway.. Have a nice weekend everyone! Time for some bird/rabbit hunting for me

10-12-2005, 04:16 AM	#1
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	lanyard Greetings fellow forum members! I picked up a few of these lanyards. They come from a german collector/seller.. Are they legit? ..value? Pictures are a bit red for some reason.. and the marking "bcb 43" is quite hard to see. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

10-12-2005, 01:04 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,762 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Morgan, These are recently made...The wire swivel is a period design. Joechim Goertz sent me an original lanyard years ago with this type of wire swivel. The rest of the leather fastener and strap show a complete lack of research. The hollow rivets to hold on the fastening button and the square shoulder strap are not right. Also the fact that it has the marking "bcb 43" indicates to me an effort to decieve. This is surely not a Military accepted item nor was it issued. As Tom says, I have never seen a lanyard such as this one. I have seen many original lanyards. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-17-2005, 08:49 AM	#4
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Thanks for the reply! I will check this out.. the person who sold them to me claims the come from mr Goertz. I'f he reads the forum or not, I don't know.. Steinar __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

10-17-2005, 12:10 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,762 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Steinar, I was in contact with Mr. Goertz for some time many years ago researching Luger Lanyards and he NEVER mentioned this lanyard. How could he? It wasn't made yet. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-17-2005, 01:51 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Steiner... you are aware that Herr Goertz passed on many months ago... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-12-2005, 09:36 AM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	I have never seen a lanyard in that configuration. Tom A

10-18-2005, 03:37 PM	#7
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	I'm in contact with the seller, refering to the information given in this forum and claiming money back! If things don't work out.. I might be tempted reveal the seller. Don't want you guys to make the same mistake I did.. Thanks, steinar __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

10-28-2005, 06:12 PM	#8
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	The red color may have been caused by having your digital camera set for an incorrect light source. If you are using incandescent, fluorescent, or sunlight, the camera must be properly set for the type of light you are using.

10-28-2005, 09:20 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,762 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Steinar, This guy has been offering these on eBay for a coup[le of months if I remember right. Nothing wrong with a repro as long as it's done right. Unfortunately this in no way represents a German Military lanyard. Somebody's backyard fabrication. Hope you are able to retrieve your Kronar, or is it Euro's?. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-28-2005, 09:44 PM	#10
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Have seen lots of them sold by one guy - all "Original" and in brand new condition. I suppose he let them produce somewhere in the East Europe. DonÃ?Â´t know where this seller got this lanyard for that auction?

10-29-2005, 07:45 AM	#11
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	It seems like I lost quite a few "kroner" on these lanyards.. The seller has gone underground.. Probably sitting in a hole with his beard counting all the money But I have learned my lesson.. kinda sad that you cannot trust people all the time. Where I live, people don't lock their front doors, leave keys in the car when they park etc.. thats probably going to change in a few years I'm affraid. Anyway.. Have a nice weekend everyone! Time for some bird/rabbit hunting for me __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane