Weimar Holster

wlyon · 08-13-2012, 01:43 PM

Interesting Weimar holster. Post WWI type hinge and mag pouch without the stitch across the back. Norwegian converted, then back to belt loops. Originally had provision for rod under lid. C. Pose AG - Berlin 1926 (possibly 25). Hard to read the last number. Either a 5 or 6. C/WaA 18. When did Waffenampt marking begin? I have seen at least 3 different manufactured 1925/26 Army holsters with WaA 18. Have not seen many Weimar newmade Army holsters.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-13-2012, 02:49 PM

Bill..Great holster! I agree..1920 something? 23? Really hard to tell even blown up. Try to sprinkle a little baking soda on the date and tap on the underside or hold an electric shaver under it..vibrate it a little and perhaps the outline will present itself?

Anyway..good to see.

Edward Tinker · 08-13-2012, 10:29 PM

I have only seen 1926' especially with this maker. Three makers of 1926 holsters is what Jim told me, he had one of each.

I believe these were made for Simsons, but of course, could be for any Luger in service.

The ones I have seen and the two or three I have, all have the later cleaning rod pouch, which was put in later, and only for a few years.

Weimar era, I have seen 1926' then they skip to 1929 and up, I have never seen 1925' 1927 or 1928 holsters.

Ed

Ron Smith · 08-14-2012, 08:51 AM

Bill,

WaA18 is found on different holster makers of various periods. My thought would be that these were possibly unissued holsters already in inventory, which were inspected and passed ( waffenamt applied ) in the mid to late 30's judging from the style of the Eagle. The date on your C. Pose holster looks like "1933"

C. Pose, Berlin, 1926

A. Wunderlich, Berlin 1927

G. Reinhardt, Berlin 1922 and 1937

Adalbert Fischer, Berlin (no date)

Ron

wlyon · 08-14-2012, 10:08 AM

Ron
The third number is definately a 2. The last I believe is a 6. Looking at the picture it does look like a 3 . However when in hand it doesn't. Again the problem with pictures vs in hand. Bill

wlyon · 08-14-2012, 04:44 PM

Just spent an hour looking at the date. Tried the baby powder bit and more magnification. Lo and behold it definately is a 5. Bill

Ron Smith · 08-14-2012, 04:54 PM

Bill,

So, it's 1925?

Ron

wlyon · 08-14-2012, 05:47 PM

Yes, it's 1925. See pics.

padredan · 08-14-2012, 06:41 PM

very nice, bill

lugerholsterrepair · 08-14-2012, 08:14 PM

Bill..A little powder and it jumps right out at you! Nice job..Rare holster for sure.

wlyon · 08-14-2012, 08:27 PM

Jerry
Yes it does. Thanks for reminding me of the powder bit. Us old men forget rapidly. Bill

Edward Tinker · 08-14-2012, 09:20 PM

First 1925 I have seen, very cool. I would think that with so many leather makers, and assorted states, that many contracts were let out?

08-13-2012, 01:43 PM	#1
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,617 Thanks: 3,141 Thanked 2,524 Times in 941 Posts	Weimar Holster Interesting Weimar holster. Post WWI type hinge and mag pouch without the stitch across the back. Norwegian converted, then back to belt loops. Originally had provision for rod under lid. C. Pose AG - Berlin 1926 (possibly 25). Hard to read the last number. Either a 5 or 6. C/WaA 18. When did Waffenampt marking begin? I have seen at least 3 different manufactured 1925/26 Army holsters with WaA 18. Have not seen many Weimar newmade Army holsters. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Lyon

08-13-2012, 02:49 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,857 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Bill..Great holster! I agree..1920 something? 23? Really hard to tell even blown up. Try to sprinkle a little baking soda on the date and tap on the underside or hold an electric shaver under it..vibrate it a little and perhaps the outline will present itself? Anyway..good to see. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-13-2012, 10:29 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I have only seen 1926' especially with this maker. Three makers of 1926 holsters is what Jim told me, he had one of each. I believe these were made for Simsons, but of course, could be for any Luger in service. The ones I have seen and the two or three I have, all have the later cleaning rod pouch, which was put in later, and only for a few years. Weimar era, I have seen 1926' then they skip to 1929 and up, I have never seen 1925' 1927 or 1928 holsters. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-14-2012, 08:51 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Bill, WaA18 is found on different holster makers of various periods. My thought would be that these were possibly unissued holsters already in inventory, which were inspected and passed ( waffenamt applied ) in the mid to late 30's judging from the style of the Eagle. The date on your C. Pose holster looks like "1933" C. Pose, Berlin, 1926 A. Wunderlich, Berlin 1927 G. Reinhardt, Berlin 1922 and 1937 Adalbert Fischer, Berlin (no date) Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

08-14-2012, 10:08 AM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,617 Thanks: 3,141 Thanked 2,524 Times in 941 Posts	Ron The third number is definately a 2. The last I believe is a 6. Looking at the picture it does look like a 3 . However when in hand it doesn't. Again the problem with pictures vs in hand. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

08-14-2012, 04:44 PM	#6
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,617 Thanks: 3,141 Thanked 2,524 Times in 941 Posts	Just spent an hour looking at the date. Tried the baby powder bit and more magnification. Lo and behold it definately is a 5. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

08-14-2012, 04:54 PM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Bill, So, it's 1925? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

08-14-2012, 05:47 PM	#8
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,617 Thanks: 3,141 Thanked 2,524 Times in 941 Posts	Yes, it's 1925. See pics. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Lyon

08-14-2012, 06:41 PM	#9
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	very nice, bill __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

08-14-2012, 08:14 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,857 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Bill..A little powder and it jumps right out at you! Nice job..Rare holster for sure. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-14-2012, 08:27 PM	#11
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,617 Thanks: 3,141 Thanked 2,524 Times in 941 Posts	Jerry Yes it does. Thanks for reminding me of the powder bit. Us old men forget rapidly. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

08-14-2012, 09:20 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	First 1925 I have seen, very cool. I would think that with so many leather makers, and assorted states, that many contracts were let out? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV