How do you straw color a part?

landrover · 02-15-2004, 02:10 AM

was wondering how is it done?

John Sabato · 02-15-2004, 12:14 PM

Do a "search" (Link is at the top right of the page" in THIS Restoration and Refinishing Forum for "straw"... somewhere in the listings you will find several discussions on methods for strawing.

If you want it professionally done, I recommend you get in touch with Thor...

Welcome to the Lugerforum landrover!

Ron Wood · 02-15-2004, 05:34 PM

Just very quickly and to oversimplify, the polished part is heated to around 400 degrees F, which causes it to darken to a golden yellow or "straw" color. It takes a fair bit of skill to keep from over-heating and getting the part too dark, or getting an uneven color because of the varying thicknesses of metal in the part. Now do a search and see what the experts had to say.

Pete Ebbink · 02-16-2004, 09:45 PM

Hello Chung,

Here is a bit of info. from Harry Jone's book, "Luger Variations" on page 52 :

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/h_jones_straw_info.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/h_jones_straw_info.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

I recall LF member Policeluger mentioning this some months back...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

policeluger · 02-16-2004, 10:30 PM

I worked with Harry Jones years ago, if you will email your internet address I will attach an easy step by step guide to strawing. I have had several very nice feedbacks from folks who have wanted to learn this near fool proof method, tried it and loved it. One reported back just the other day how easy it was, following my instructions, and how much fun he was having doing all sorts of small gun parts.

Pete Ebbink · 02-16-2004, 11:24 PM

Hello Howard,

Sign me up...pebbink@pacbell.net...

Appreciate the help...

Regards,

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ViggoG · 02-17-2004, 01:35 AM

I'm always looking for another method !
Sign Me up with Pete !
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John Sabato · 02-17-2004, 11:09 AM

policeluger, unless the process you have is copyrighted, why not write it up as an article complete with photos and I will create a page under 'technical information" naturally crediting the source...

Strider · 02-17-2004, 02:31 PM

Policeluger, add me to the list also. I'm with Viggo, I still have lots to learn and the desire to do so. <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> My email address is sgariss@bhinc.com.
Thanks.
Sid.

policeluger · 02-17-2004, 05:34 PM

John, nothing I have passed out is copyrighted, and from my side I would like too pass this out along with a free and open note to all that I will email as much extra help as one may need. There is at the bottom of my directions, a note that I do this in my shop for $85, but would rather the do-it yourselfer try if they so wish. No one to date has sent me parts to straw from LF and that is just fine...but several have noted to me how well it works, and eazy to, I will clean up my notes, make it a little more profesional and send it along to you to do as you wish and to post on LF...to the LF members above, hang tight a copy is now on is way to you....after this, gun bluing by email

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landrover · 02-18-2004, 02:52 AM

Thanks guys for all your help I'll give it a try.

landrover · 02-21-2004, 10:57 AM

That just polish bake in oven at 440 technique worked out GREAT, I didn't know how easy it was. THANKS guys. Boy now I want to straw everything I have, it is soo easy and soo beutiful.

Apostolos · 07-25-2004, 08:28 PM

Something very interesting.Can someone let me know this guide? agoozis@yahoo.com I dont know if you can do it for me as I am a new member.Apostolos.

G.T. · 07-25-2004, 08:40 PM

Hey policeluger! Lem'me see if I have this straight?? If I use your method for restrawing .... can I charge you more for a Luger that I sell to you??... or, do I have to pay you for restrawing it myself!!

JUST KIDDING!!! I hope you've been happy with the Lugers sent thus far?? I sure have enjoyed the interaction to date! best to you, til....lat'r....GT

policeluger · 07-25-2004, 10:14 PM

WHAT! the Lugers you sold me were restrawed?? oh well they look good. Real happy with the last one, in fact real happy with them all!

policeluger · 07-25-2004, 10:17 PM

Apostolos....I have sent you some instruction on strwaing at home.

G.T. · 07-25-2004, 10:37 PM

Hi policeluger! Nope! I could burn water!

I'll leave the color changes to the experts! I've been searching for some more unusual P.08's for ya... no luck this week... best to you, til...lat'r...GT

Apostolos · 07-26-2004, 07:01 PM

Howard,thank you very much for these directions.I wanted this list just in case,for my records.I will not try to do anything with the M1900 Bul.I am afraid of John Sabato to excommunicate me!JUST KIDDING.

policeluger · 07-26-2004, 07:29 PM

John no longer has this power....the worst that can happen here is he will require you to send him this Luger for safe keeping....good luck

Dean · 07-26-2004, 10:53 PM

FWIW, I noticed that 304 Stainless can also be strawed. The temperature may be slightly different than that of regular steel.

I discovered this by accident while working on my stainless stock iron.

02-15-2004, 02:10 AM	#1
landrover New User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How do you straw color a part? was wondering how is it done?

02-15-2004, 12:14 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Do a "search" (Link is at the top right of the page" in THIS Restoration and Refinishing Forum for "straw"... somewhere in the listings you will find several discussions on methods for strawing. If you want it professionally done, I recommend you get in touch with Thor... Welcome to the Lugerforum landrover! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-15-2004, 05:34 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,098 Times in 1,676 Posts	Just very quickly and to oversimplify, the polished part is heated to around 400 degrees F, which causes it to darken to a golden yellow or "straw" color. It takes a fair bit of skill to keep from over-heating and getting the part too dark, or getting an uneven color because of the varying thicknesses of metal in the part. Now do a search and see what the experts had to say. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-17-2004, 11:09 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	policeluger, unless the process you have is copyrighted, why not write it up as an article complete with photos and I will create a page under 'technical information" naturally crediting the source... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-17-2004, 02:31 PM	#9
Strider User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 256 Thanks: 26 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Policeluger, add me to the list also. I'm with Viggo, I still have lots to learn and the desire to do so. <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> My email address is sgariss@bhinc.com. Thanks. Sid. __________________ Sid. Patience is a bitter plant, but it has sweet fruit. ~German Proverb If it is made before 1930 ..........It is a prototype.

02-16-2004, 09:45 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Chung, Here is a bit of info. from Harry Jone's book, "Luger Variations" on page 52 : <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/h_jones_straw_info.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/h_jones_straw_info.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> I recall LF member Policeluger mentioning this some months back... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

02-16-2004, 10:30 PM	#5
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I worked with Harry Jones years ago, if you will email your internet address I will attach an easy step by step guide to strawing. I have had several very nice feedbacks from folks who have wanted to learn this near fool proof method, tried it and loved it. One reported back just the other day how easy it was, following my instructions, and how much fun he was having doing all sorts of small gun parts.

02-16-2004, 11:24 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Howard, Sign me up...pebbink@pacbell.net... Appreciate the help... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

02-17-2004, 01:35 AM	#7
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'm always looking for another method ! Sign Me up with Pete ! "When One Quits Learning, They Must Know Everything". and I've got a long ways to go before I Quit ! > viggogdereng@juno.com > ViggoG

02-17-2004, 05:34 PM	#10
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	John, nothing I have passed out is copyrighted, and from my side I would like too pass this out along with a free and open note to all that I will email as much extra help as one may need. There is at the bottom of my directions, a note that I do this in my shop for $85, but would rather the do-it yourselfer try if they so wish. No one to date has sent me parts to straw from LF and that is just fine...but several have noted to me how well it works, and eazy to, I will clean up my notes, make it a little more profesional and send it along to you to do as you wish and to post on LF...to the LF members above, hang tight a copy is now on is way to you....after this, gun bluing by email...

02-18-2004, 02:52 AM	#11
landrover New User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys for all your help I'll give it a try.

02-21-2004, 10:57 AM	#12
landrover New User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That just polish bake in oven at 440 technique worked out GREAT, I didn't know how easy it was. THANKS guys. Boy now I want to straw everything I have, it is soo easy and soo beutiful.

07-25-2004, 08:28 PM	#13
Apostolos User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Thessaloniki- Greece Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Something very interesting.Can someone let me know this guide? agoozis@yahoo.com I dont know if you can do it for me as I am a new member.Apostolos. __________________ I only know one thing,that I know nothing.SOCRATES.

07-25-2004, 08:40 PM	#14
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Hey policeluger! Lem'me see if I have this straight?? If I use your method for restrawing .... can I charge you more for a Luger that I sell to you??... or, do I have to pay you for restrawing it myself!! JUST KIDDING!!! I hope you've been happy with the Lugers sent thus far?? I sure have enjoyed the interaction to date! best to you, til....lat'r....GT

07-25-2004, 10:14 PM	#15
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	WHAT! the Lugers you sold me were restrawed?? oh well they look good. Real happy with the last one, in fact real happy with them all!

07-25-2004, 10:17 PM	#16
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Apostolos....I have sent you some instruction on strwaing at home.

07-25-2004, 10:37 PM	#17
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Hi policeluger! Nope! I could burn water! I'll leave the color changes to the experts! I've been searching for some more unusual P.08's for ya... no luck this week... best to you, til...lat'r...GT

07-26-2004, 07:01 PM	#18
Apostolos User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Thessaloniki- Greece Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Howard,thank you very much for these directions.I wanted this list just in case,for my records.I will not try to do anything with the M1900 Bul.I am afraid of John Sabato to excommunicate me!JUST KIDDING. __________________ I only know one thing,that I know nothing.SOCRATES.

07-26-2004, 07:29 PM	#19
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	John no longer has this power....the worst that can happen here is he will require you to send him this Luger for safe keeping....good luck

07-26-2004, 10:53 PM	#20
Dean User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: PA Posts: 132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	FWIW, I noticed that 304 Stainless can also be strawed. The temperature may be slightly different than that of regular steel. I discovered this by accident while working on my stainless stock iron. __________________ Carpe Diem, Parabellum