Swiss P.06 Holster

JohnF · 12-10-2002, 06:34 PM

I recently found this holster for sale and am thinking about buying it. Does it look correct? This is the best photo that I have right now.

Navy · 12-10-2002, 06:41 PM

It appears correct to me.

Tom A.

JohnF · 12-10-2002, 07:00 PM

Could someone please give me an idea of the value of this holster? The seller wants around $300.

Pete Ebbink · 12-10-2002, 11:30 PM

Hello John F.,

The holster in the attached photo I bought 3 months ago from a antiques dealer in Switzerland for $ 104.00 which included shipping & insurance. Mine did come with the shoulder strap, your photo indicates it may not have one...(?)

p.s. I could be wrong and might be seeing some photographic distortion, but your holster looks a bit longer than mine, which is for a 4-3/4" bbl. Is your holster for a 6" bbl. ?

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

lugerholsterrepair · 12-10-2002, 11:32 PM

John F , If Tom Armstrong says it looks correct to him you can put that into the bank. This guy knows more about Luger holsters than I ever will. I can't say on price as I do not follow Swiss items. Jerry Burney

Imperial Arms · 12-11-2002, 12:58 AM

John F.

Pete's mentioned price of $100-$125 for a Swiss holster is correct depending on the date of manufacture and condition. It appears by the marking that the holster may have been made in 1910. Having straps for this type holster is always a plus.

I hope this information is helpful to you.

Albert

JohnF · 12-11-2002, 03:45 AM

As far as I know, this is a holster for a 6" barrel pistol.

Lugerdoc · 12-11-2002, 08:11 AM

John F, If this 1910 or 1919 (hard to tell from photo) dated Swiss holster is for the standard 120mm (4&3/4") Swiss barrelled luger, I think that in dry condition (some leather flaking) without original shoulder strap, it should probably sell in the $100 range, like Pete's nicer M29 model holster. Original shoulder strap can double this value and if it is in fact for a 6"(150mm) barrel, it is a real odd ball and may be worth what the seller is asking. Tom H.

JohnF · 12-11-2002, 09:01 AM

I just got confirmation from the seller. This is for a 6" barrel pistol. A standard 4 3/4" barrel pistol is about 1 1/2" too short for it. Did the Swiss ever make a 6" Luger?

wterrell · 12-11-2002, 04:19 PM

Ron Wood · 12-11-2002, 04:35 PM

Pete Ebbink · 12-28-2002, 03:41 PM

Hello John F.,

This is only a guess on my part, but I think your swiss 6" holster might be real for the commercial market.

I say commerical, since only a 4-3/4" luger was in service for both the military and police services.

In both the Eugene Bender book and the Vittorio Babba book; there are photos of swiss holsters for both a 5" gun and a 7" gun...

Since many varieties of lugers were put into use for Swiss shooting clubs, I would imagine a 6" swiss luger and holster would not be un-thinkable...

p.s. I had the good fortune to see a nice Swiss collection at a recent Reno gun show that is owned by Mr. Bob Lewis of Modesto, CA. If my memory serves me well, I do think Bob might have had a 6" holster as well...(am 85% sure on this...)

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Pete Ebbink · 12-28-2002, 08:38 PM

Hey Ron and Wes,

You guys using disappearing ink, when you type messages ? [img]wink.gif[/img]

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

wterrell · 12-28-2002, 08:51 PM

Pete,
Even though it was going to hairlip the governor, I had to delete my post, because I let the holster, that I had promised to purchase, go by. It was very embarrassing for me, but that is my own fault. The holster was much later manufacture than the seller lead me to believe. I did not want just a holster in which to stick the pistol, I wanted a comtemporary period holster.

Ron Wood · 12-29-2002, 12:11 AM

I deleted mine because it was in reply to Wes' post and it was no longer relevant.

Navy · 12-30-2002, 09:10 PM

For reasons that are not z'ackly clear, Swiss holsters do not command a price comparible with German holsters, even though Swiss Lugers do.

One day, I will figure all of this out, but for now, I'd pay somewhere in the $200-250 range for that leather. Its nice, original early Swiss and FWIW, who were the first big buyers of the toggle top?

Tom A

Edward Tinker · 12-31-2002, 01:43 AM

So, reading between the lines Tom, this is one of those areas that the holster one day will catch up to the gun.

So the chances are, that good quality in nice shape holsters will go up in significant value?

Navy · 12-31-2002, 06:46 AM

Ed,

As most forum members of any length may recall, I have long been an advocate of acquiring excellent original leather. It is rarer than the pistols and ALWAYS goes only one way in value. As an example, an exc original Type one Navy holster could be had for around $250 in the late 80's. Today, if you can find one FS, expect to pay $1500 up.

When you find nice original holsters, buy 'em or you will be regretting not doing so in the future.

Tom A.

12-10-2002, 06:34 PM	#1
JohnF User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Swiss P.06 Holster I recently found this holster for sale and am thinking about buying it. Does it look correct? This is the best photo that I have right now.

12-10-2002, 11:32 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	John F , If Tom Armstrong says it looks correct to him you can put that into the bank. This guy knows more about Luger holsters than I ever will. I can't say on price as I do not follow Swiss items. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-11-2002, 08:11 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	John F, If this 1910 or 1919 (hard to tell from photo) dated Swiss holster is for the standard 120mm (4&3/4") Swiss barrelled luger, I think that in dry condition (some leather flaking) without original shoulder strap, it should probably sell in the $100 range, like Pete's nicer M29 model holster. Original shoulder strap can double this value and if it is in fact for a 6"(150mm) barrel, it is a real odd ball and may be worth what the seller is asking. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-11-2002, 04:19 PM	#10
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12-11-2002, 04:35 PM	#11
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12-10-2002, 06:41 PM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	It appears correct to me. Tom A.

12-10-2002, 07:00 PM	#3
JohnF User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Could someone please give me an idea of the value of this holster? The seller wants around $300.

12-10-2002, 11:30 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello John F., The holster in the attached photo I bought 3 months ago from a antiques dealer in Switzerland for $ 104.00 which included shipping & insurance. Mine did come with the shoulder strap, your photo indicates it may not have one...(?) p.s. I could be wrong and might be seeing some photographic distortion, but your holster looks a bit longer than mine, which is for a 4-3/4" bbl. Is your holster for a 6" bbl. ? Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

12-11-2002, 12:58 AM	#6
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	John F. Pete's mentioned price of $100-$125 for a Swiss holster is correct depending on the date of manufacture and condition. It appears by the marking that the holster may have been made in 1910. Having straps for this type holster is always a plus. I hope this information is helpful to you. Albert

12-11-2002, 03:45 AM	#7
JohnF User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	As far as I know, this is a holster for a 6" barrel pistol.

12-11-2002, 09:01 AM	#9
JohnF User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I just got confirmation from the seller. This is for a 6" barrel pistol. A standard 4 3/4" barrel pistol is about 1 1/2" too short for it. Did the Swiss ever make a 6" Luger?

12-28-2002, 03:41 PM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello John F., This is only a guess on my part, but I think your swiss 6" holster might be real for the commercial market. I say commerical, since only a 4-3/4" luger was in service for both the military and police services. In both the Eugene Bender book and the Vittorio Babba book; there are photos of swiss holsters for both a 5" gun and a 7" gun... Since many varieties of lugers were put into use for Swiss shooting clubs, I would imagine a 6" swiss luger and holster would not be un-thinkable... p.s. I had the good fortune to see a nice Swiss collection at a recent Reno gun show that is owned by Mr. Bob Lewis of Modesto, CA. If my memory serves me well, I do think Bob might have had a 6" holster as well...(am 85% sure on this...) Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

12-28-2002, 08:38 PM	#13
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hey Ron and Wes, You guys using disappearing ink, when you type messages ? [img]wink.gif[/img] Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

12-28-2002, 08:51 PM	#14
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Pete, Even though it was going to hairlip the governor, I had to delete my post, because I let the holster, that I had promised to purchase, go by. It was very embarrassing for me, but that is my own fault. The holster was much later manufacture than the seller lead me to believe. I did not want just a holster in which to stick the pistol, I wanted a comtemporary period holster. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

12-29-2002, 12:11 AM	#15
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	I deleted mine because it was in reply to Wes' post and it was no longer relevant. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-30-2002, 09:10 PM	#16
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	For reasons that are not z'ackly clear, Swiss holsters do not command a price comparible with German holsters, even though Swiss Lugers do. One day, I will figure all of this out, but for now, I'd pay somewhere in the $200-250 range for that leather. Its nice, original early Swiss and FWIW, who were the first big buyers of the toggle top? Tom A

12-31-2002, 01:43 AM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	So, reading between the lines Tom, this is one of those areas that the holster one day will catch up to the gun. So the chances are, that good quality in nice shape holsters will go up in significant value? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-31-2002, 06:46 AM	#18
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Ed, As most forum members of any length may recall, I have long been an advocate of acquiring excellent original leather. It is rarer than the pistols and ALWAYS goes only one way in value. As an example, an exc original Type one Navy holster could be had for around $250 in the late 80's. Today, if you can find one FS, expect to pay $1500 up. When you find nice original holsters, buy 'em or you will be regretting not doing so in the future. Tom A.