I.D. tool marked 7above & U below hole

dalep38 · 03-12-2008, 08:58 PM

Gentlemen : I have a Luger tool that seems proper Thickness which would be under 1/10 of an inch and the marks are 7 above hole and U below the hole ,no other marks present . I have been looking in several books and can't find the clue to the Luger it is for, unless this is some type of unit marking or something like that for a commercial Luger used by some group maybe? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I will post pictures if interest warrants it. Thank You, Dale

Edward Tinker · 03-12-2008, 11:12 PM

Dale, pictures would be the only way to guess I think? Sounds like a unit marking to me?

Ed

George Anderson · 03-13-2008, 06:11 AM

Dale, what size are the stampings and is each followed by a period?

dalep38 · 03-13-2008, 12:50 PM

Gentlemen: the # and letter stampings are about 1/16" high and about 1/16" away from the hole in the tool ,no periods following them . I will post a picture later today. Thank You, Dale

dalep38 · 03-13-2008, 01:13 PM

I think I finally got a picture small enough to post ? Now if someone can enlarge it enough to see it ?Thank You Dale

John Sabato · 03-13-2008, 02:05 PM

Dale, That photo won't work... please check your private messages.

wlyon · 03-13-2008, 02:41 PM

Could be Ulan 7th Reg.?? Bill

Edward Tinker · 03-13-2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dalep38
I think I finally got a picture small enough to post ? Now if someone can enlarge it enough to see it ?Thank You Dale

you have chosen not to accept emails from this board, which is fine, except no one can send you an email (this can be changed in your profile. No one except admin has rights to see your meail, although it would be shown if you reply (but only way to send a picture to another for help).

You can send me your largest photo(s) and I can shrink it down for you.

We need to be able to see the letters once cropped down to that area.

weimar_lugers@comcast.net

John Sabato · 03-14-2008, 09:38 AM

Here is the front photo:

Here is the back:

Now that I have seen the tool, my first impression was that it was a reproduction... because the screwdriver edges, and the mag button hole are so crude, that I don't think they would have passed WW2 German quality control...

What do the rest of you guys think?

dalep38 · 03-14-2008, 04:15 PM

Ed: I'll change the profile back to allow emails ,Thank You, Dale

GerColctor · 03-14-2008, 09:35 PM

It is a repo and a poor one at that. The letter & number are not a unit mark.

Joe

Lugerdoc · 03-15-2008, 06:31 AM

The overall length of the tool is too short to be original, unless cut down. The thin rim inside the hole is more centered on the bottom, than on the left side as is seen most often. TH

dalep38 · 03-15-2008, 04:10 PM

Gentlemen : Thank you for the timely and informative responses to the post and the help with the photos. I didn't think it was anything special as I've relayed to a few members but it doesn't hurt to find out .I know after years of Gun collecting that sometimes what appears as crude and unacceptable can in rare cases turn out to have a greater value .
Thank You , Dale

P.S. Tom, ck. sent Today for 3 FXO mag bottoms& pins ,Thank You

03-12-2008, 08:58 PM	#1
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I.D. tool marked 7above & U below hole Gentlemen : I have a Luger tool that seems proper Thickness which would be under 1/10 of an inch and the marks are 7 above hole and U below the hole ,no other marks present . I have been looking in several books and can't find the clue to the Luger it is for, unless this is some type of unit marking or something like that for a commercial Luger used by some group maybe? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I will post pictures if interest warrants it. Thank You, Dale __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags

03-12-2008, 11:12 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Dale, pictures would be the only way to guess I think? Sounds like a unit marking to me? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-13-2008, 12:50 PM	#4
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Gentlemen: the # and letter stampings are about 1/16" high and about 1/16" away from the hole in the tool ,no periods following them . I will post a picture later today. Thank You, Dale __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags

03-13-2008, 01:13 PM	#5
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Picture? I think I finally got a picture small enough to post ? Now if someone can enlarge it enough to see it ?Thank You Dale Attached Images __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags

03-13-2008, 02:05 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Dale, That photo won't work... please check your private messages. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-13-2008, 06:11 AM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Dale, what size are the stampings and is each followed by a period?

03-13-2008, 02:41 PM	#7
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,618 Thanks: 3,141 Thanked 2,526 Times in 942 Posts	Could be Ulan 7th Reg.?? Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

03-14-2008, 09:38 AM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Unknown Takedown Tool Photos Here is the front photo: Here is the back: Now that I have seen the tool, my first impression was that it was a reproduction... because the screwdriver edges, and the mag button hole are so crude, that I don't think they would have passed WW2 German quality control... What do the rest of you guys think? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-14-2008, 04:15 PM	#10
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Ed: I'll change the profile back to allow emails ,Thank You, Dale __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags

03-14-2008, 09:35 PM	#11
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 308 Thanks: 2 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts	It is a repo and a poor one at that. The letter & number are not a unit mark. Joe __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.

03-15-2008, 06:31 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The overall length of the tool is too short to be original, unless cut down. The thin rim inside the hole is more centered on the bottom, than on the left side as is seen most often. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-15-2008, 04:10 PM	#13
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Gentlemen : Thank you for the timely and informative responses to the post and the help with the photos. I didn't think it was anything special as I've relayed to a few members but it doesn't hurt to find out .I know after years of Gun collecting that sometimes what appears as crude and unacceptable can in rare cases turn out to have a greater value . Thank You , Dale P.S. Tom, ck. sent Today for 3 FXO mag bottoms& pins ,Thank You __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags