Grips for 70's Interarms P-08's

HisSoldier · 10-02-2008, 11:11 AM

As I've mentioned in another post the left grip on my P-08 is very poor quality. There are many thousands of these guns out there, surely someone is making replacement grips for them. Can anyone direct me to where they are? Thanks.

Hugh · 10-03-2008, 02:08 AM

They ain't out there!

If it is basically sound, I can probably improve the appearance.
Hugh

Vlim · 10-03-2008, 06:06 AM

Well, nobody is making replacement grips, but there is some residual stock floating around in Germany.

The grips themselves were made as uncheckered blanks in Italy, and received final checkering, oiling and the dreaded brass pins in Germany.

10-03-2008, 08:03 AM

If you do not object to Bakealite, the Original Swiss grips for the M29 fit nicely. The only problem is the slot at the rear for the grip safety. It is a little longer on the Swiss version but they were fine for me and feel so much better.

Lugerdoc · 10-03-2008, 08:45 AM

HS, I have a new set of original factory PO8 type checkered wood Parabellum grips available @$150 or just a left side, cut for the cartridge counter indicator @$50. I also have a few sets of new repro black plastic M29 Swiss grips, as shown above, @$40. Th hellerarms@webtv.net

HisSoldier · 10-03-2008, 12:12 PM

Thanks for the replies, mine has the swell at the bottom front of the grip strap. Hugh, I may contact you later if that's OK. Thanks,

John Sabato · 10-03-2008, 02:56 PM

Glen, I recommend you post a couple of quality photos of the offending grip both installed and off the gun and Hugh can tell you whether or not he can rework it to your satisfaction.

HisSoldier · 10-03-2008, 08:58 PM

OK, here's my best attempts;

I know it may seem like I'm nitpicking, or reacting to statements made in this forum about 70's era grips shapes, but I disliked the left grip when I took it out of the box. If you look you can see a nearly vertical line near the center that looks like someone bumped the machine that was cutting the checkering, there are several of these really, and they aren't on the RH grip or the other P-08 grips from the same era.
A flatter view so the larger flat area in the center of the grip can be seen.

HisSoldier · 10-03-2008, 09:02 PM

P.S., there are no brass pins in or under any of these grips That I can find.

Hugh · 10-04-2008, 12:52 AM

Glen,

I can sand off the checkering, thinning the grips; change the edge angles to a more tapered profile similar to original Luger grips, rechecker @ 20 lines per inch, and stain a darker reddish-walnut color. The cost will be $75 including return postage. For $25 more, I can checker with an uncheckered border similar to Swiss grips.

HisSoldier · 10-04-2008, 09:10 AM

Thanks, Hugh. For the work involved it's cheap IMHO. I managed to ruin a nice cocobolo grip on another gun trying to clean up checkering. Let me see if my local 'smith is interested first, he's been out of town for a while.

10-04-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by HisSoldier
P.S., there are no brass pins in or under any of these grips That I can find.

I think the brass pins are specific to the Swiss style M29/70 frame, not the P.08 frame. But I could be wrong.

Vlim · 10-06-2008, 03:15 AM

The brass pins were phased out somewhere after 1973.

So there are P08 style grips with brass pins.

HisSoldier · 11-22-2008, 06:02 PM

My local gunsmith refinished the grip, looks and feels much better now. Now if I could get rid of the stupid grip safety! Thing pinches my hand and doesn't always deactivate, worst part is that it's part of the safety and the safety won't work without it.

Sieger · 11-22-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HisSoldier

My local gunsmith refinished the grip, looks and feels much better now. Now if I could get rid of the stupid grip safety! Thing pinches my hand and doesn't always deactivate, worst part is that it's part of the safety and the safety won't work without it.

Hi:

Amen to these comments!

They took an almost perfect design (yes the right grip usually works lose on an original Luger if not properly oiled and cared for) and butchered it!

I agree that the grip saftey is also a nightmare! Perhaps a longer one, like the Swiss original, wouldn't make you constantly and uncomfortablly grip the frame so tightly and unnaturally.

Again, these 1970s Parabellums failed commercially. Perhaps they should have spent the few more dollars necessary to fabricate a more original Luger rather than take a 1929 Swiss and cheapen it.

Sieger

HisSoldier · 11-22-2008, 11:18 PM

I'd guess the grip safety was also an appeasement to GCA '68. When liberals win we all lose for a looooooong time.

Sieger · 11-23-2008, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HisSoldier

I'd guess the grip safety was also an appeasement to GCA '68. When liberals win we all lose for a looooooong time.

Hi:

No, I don't think the GCA of 1968 had anything to do with it.

They modified the original sear configuration, to save a few cents, and without the grip saftey, the pistol can be easily fired by simply picking it up the wrong way.

Another blunder!!!

Sieger

PS Can someone tell me how to configure the spell checker in this new system?

10-02-2008, 11:11 AM	#1
HisSoldier User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Grips for 70's Interarms P-08's As I've mentioned in another post the left grip on my P-08 is very poor quality. There are many thousands of these guns out there, surely someone is making replacement grips for them. Can anyone direct me to where they are? Thanks. __________________ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

10-03-2008, 02:08 AM	#2
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	They ain't out there! If it is basically sound, I can probably improve the appearance. Hugh __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

10-03-2008, 08:45 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	HS, I have a new set of original factory PO8 type checkered wood Parabellum grips available @$150 or just a left side, cut for the cartridge counter indicator @$50. I also have a few sets of new repro black plastic M29 Swiss grips, as shown above, @$40. Th hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-03-2008, 12:12 PM	#6
HisSoldier User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks for the replies, mine has the swell at the bottom front of the grip strap. Hugh, I may contact you later if that's OK. Thanks, __________________ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

10-03-2008, 02:56 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Glen, I recommend you post a couple of quality photos of the offending grip both installed and off the gun and Hugh can tell you whether or not he can rework it to your satisfaction. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-03-2008, 06:06 AM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,038 Thanks: 1,021 Thanked 3,900 Times in 1,190 Posts	Well, nobody is making replacement grips, but there is some residual stock floating around in Germany. The grips themselves were made as uncheckered blanks in Italy, and received final checkering, oiling and the dreaded brass pins in Germany.

10-03-2008, 08:03 AM	#4
Brad Guest Posts: n/a	If you do not object to Bakealite, the Original Swiss grips for the M29 fit nicely. The only problem is the slot at the rear for the grip safety. It is a little longer on the Swiss version but they were fine for me and feel so much better.

10-03-2008, 08:58 PM	#8
HisSoldier User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	OK, here's my best attempts; I know it may seem like I'm nitpicking, or reacting to statements made in this forum about 70's era grips shapes, but I disliked the left grip when I took it out of the box. If you look you can see a nearly vertical line near the center that looks like someone bumped the machine that was cutting the checkering, there are several of these really, and they aren't on the RH grip or the other P-08 grips from the same era. A flatter view so the larger flat area in the center of the grip can be seen. __________________ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

10-03-2008, 09:02 PM	#9
HisSoldier User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	P.S., there are no brass pins in or under any of these grips That I can find. __________________ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

10-04-2008, 12:52 AM	#10
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Glen, I can sand off the checkering, thinning the grips; change the edge angles to a more tapered profile similar to original Luger grips, rechecker @ 20 lines per inch, and stain a darker reddish-walnut color. The cost will be $75 including return postage. For $25 more, I can checker with an uncheckered border similar to Swiss grips. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

10-04-2008, 09:10 AM	#11
HisSoldier User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks, Hugh. For the work involved it's cheap IMHO. I managed to ruin a nice cocobolo grip on another gun trying to clean up checkering. Let me see if my local 'smith is interested first, he's been out of town for a while. __________________ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

10-06-2008, 03:15 AM	#13
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,038 Thanks: 1,021 Thanked 3,900 Times in 1,190 Posts	The brass pins were phased out somewhere after 1973. So there are P08 style grips with brass pins.

11-22-2008, 06:02 PM	#14
HisSoldier User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	My local gunsmith refinished the grip, looks and feels much better now. Now if I could get rid of the stupid grip safety! Thing pinches my hand and doesn't always deactivate, worst part is that it's part of the safety and the safety won't work without it. __________________ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

11-22-2008, 11:18 PM	#16
HisSoldier User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	I'd guess the grip safety was also an appeasement to GCA '68. When liberals win we all lose for a looooooong time. __________________ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom