1940 Luger Holster

alexander04 · 11-27-2007, 06:32 PM

This is especially for Jerry Burney. I read something on the message Board about "all those hard shell holsters we see so often." I have a 1940 Karl Bocker holster with Nazi eagle and proof of waA195. This is a very hard holster. Should I be worried about it being a fake/ I got it at Simpson's in Galesburg IL. Thanks.

William Quinn

Edward Tinker · 11-27-2007, 07:08 PM

Well, I am not Jerry Burney, so apoligize for answering.

Can you quote where you saw / heard the phrase "hard shell holsters...." I hear that for P38, but not for luger holsters.

Why would yours be fake? Does it look like a fake?

lugerholsterrepair · 11-27-2007, 07:12 PM

William, Many molded original holsters have a nice shape and are hard. I would need a lot more information to determine it's authenticity.

Did Simpson's sell it to you as an original? How much did you pay? If Simpson's said it was original I wouldn't necessarily worry too much about it. I don't believe they would intentionally cheat anyone.

If you would like to send me a photo or post one or two on the Forum I can tell you for sure.
I like to see the full back and one of the front with the top open.

Jerry burney

lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net

alexander04 · 11-27-2007, 08:43 PM

Jerry,
Thanks for your reply. Simpson's said it was an original. I'll try to send photos if I can figure out how to do it. I paid $700 for it. It looks to be in excellent condition (which made me wonder). I then saw a 1941 holster that looked quite good for $400. I called Simpson's but they weren't much help except assuring me that they would not sell me a repro. I'm such an amateur at collecting that I worry about being taken in. Thanks.

Wm Quinn

alexander04 · 11-27-2007, 08:46 PM

To edward Tinker,

No need to apologize. I can use all the help I can get. Thanks. It doesn't look fake, but it's in great condition, so I wonder.

Wm Quinn

alexander04 · 11-27-2007, 09:10 PM

To Edward Tinker,

I can't find the reference to hard shell holsters. Sorry.

Wm Quinn

lugerholsterrepair · 11-27-2007, 09:38 PM

William, Ed..I think the difference is that P-38's also had a soft shell. Lugers do not and therefore the reference to hard and softshell for P-38 but not Luger.
I have no doubt that Simpson's sold you an original holster. The 1942 date apparently commands a hefty premium.
Jerry Burney

11-27-2007, 06:32 PM	#1
alexander04 User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1940 Luger Holster This is especially for Jerry Burney. I read something on the message Board about "all those hard shell holsters we see so often." I have a 1940 Karl Bocker holster with Nazi eagle and proof of waA195. This is a very hard holster. Should I be worried about it being a fake/ I got it at Simpson's in Galesburg IL. Thanks. William Quinn __________________ Wm Quinn

11-27-2007, 07:08 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,987 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Well, I am not Jerry Burney, so apoligize for answering. Can you quote where you saw / heard the phrase "hard shell holsters...." I hear that for P38, but not for luger holsters. Why would yours be fake? Does it look like a fake? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-27-2007, 07:12 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,852 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	William, Many molded original holsters have a nice shape and are hard. I would need a lot more information to determine it's authenticity. Did Simpson's sell it to you as an original? How much did you pay? If Simpson's said it was original I wouldn't necessarily worry too much about it. I don't believe they would intentionally cheat anyone. If you would like to send me a photo or post one or two on the Forum I can tell you for sure. I like to see the full back and one of the front with the top open. Jerry burney lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-27-2007, 08:43 PM	#4
alexander04 User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jerry, Thanks for your reply. Simpson's said it was an original. I'll try to send photos if I can figure out how to do it. I paid $700 for it. It looks to be in excellent condition (which made me wonder). I then saw a 1941 holster that looked quite good for $400. I called Simpson's but they weren't much help except assuring me that they would not sell me a repro. I'm such an amateur at collecting that I worry about being taken in. Thanks. Wm Quinn __________________ Wm Quinn

11-27-2007, 08:46 PM	#5
alexander04 User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To edward Tinker, No need to apologize. I can use all the help I can get. Thanks. It doesn't look fake, but it's in great condition, so I wonder. Wm Quinn __________________ Wm Quinn

11-27-2007, 09:10 PM	#6
alexander04 User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To Edward Tinker, I can't find the reference to hard shell holsters. Sorry. Wm Quinn __________________ Wm Quinn

11-27-2007, 09:38 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,852 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	William, Ed..I think the difference is that P-38's also had a soft shell. Lugers do not and therefore the reference to hard and softshell for P-38 but not Luger. I have no doubt that Simpson's sold you an original holster. The 1942 date apparently commands a hefty premium. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."