Fake WWII Luger Tool??

Mike K. · 07-23-2007, 09:03 PM

Greetings,

What is your opinion of this tool? I have my suspicions that it is a repro.

Thanks for your opinions.

Mike K. · 07-23-2007, 09:03 PM

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Mike K. · 07-23-2007, 09:04 PM

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Mike K. · 07-23-2007, 09:05 PM

4. Stamped Eagle 63.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-23-2007, 10:37 PM

Mike, The Germans did not use stamps that created a box around the eagle. This tool is as phony as they come. At least the stamp is phony. The tool itself looks that way too. Jerry Burney

Mike K. · 07-23-2007, 11:51 PM

Thanks Jerry!! I have never seen an Eagle 63 stamp like this one as well!

Vlim · 07-24-2007, 05:59 AM

Most likely a reproduction. It looks too thick (should be 2.5 mm) and too roughly made and finished.

Lugerdoc · 07-24-2007, 09:12 AM

Mike, The swe/63 stamp in your second photo, looks like the ones on the Sarco repros, currently available. TH

Mike K. · 07-24-2007, 09:41 AM

Thanks again guys for this great forum and your feedback! Before the heyday of the web years ago, information on reproductions and fakes would take time to circulate. Thank goodness now we can pass information along immediately to quickly defeat the charlatans! The forum is especially great for novices such as myself. Fortunately, I did not have to pay for this tool!

Pete Ebbink · 08-03-2007, 06:46 PM

Look at how thick this one is...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

"Mauser" marking looks a bit off, as well...

And then check out this Navy one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

GerColctor · 08-05-2007, 05:59 PM

The E/63 is a repo. Never saw a navy marked tool with those marks on it. Not saying I have seen all of them.

Read the discription in the eBay offering for the navy, people will say anything to justify the sale.
Joe

Navy · 08-05-2007, 06:17 PM

The navy marked tool is a fantasy piece. The die that was used was one that came out of Europe in the 70's/80's and were sold in SGN. I have seen holsters and Mauser 1910/34 and HSc with same bogus marks.

Tom A

Pete Ebbink · 08-25-2007, 02:24 PM

This one looks too thick and I do not like the execution of the Imperial/Crown stamping...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

07-23-2007, 09:03 PM	#1
Mike K. User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Fake WWII Luger Tool?? Greetings, What is your opinion of this tool? I have my suspicions that it is a repro. Thanks for your opinions. Attached Thumbnails

07-23-2007, 09:03 PM	#2
Mike K. User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	2. Attached Images

07-23-2007, 09:04 PM	#3
Mike K. User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	3. Attached Thumbnails

07-23-2007, 09:05 PM	#4
Mike K. User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	4. Stamped Eagle 63. Attached Images

07-23-2007, 10:37 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,852 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Mike, The Germans did not use stamps that created a box around the eagle. This tool is as phony as they come. At least the stamp is phony. The tool itself looks that way too. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-23-2007, 11:51 PM	#6
Mike K. User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks Jerry!! I have never seen an Eagle 63 stamp like this one as well!

07-24-2007, 05:59 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Most likely a reproduction. It looks too thick (should be 2.5 mm) and too roughly made and finished.

07-24-2007, 09:12 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mike, The swe/63 stamp in your second photo, looks like the ones on the Sarco repros, currently available. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-24-2007, 09:41 AM	#9
Mike K. User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks again guys for this great forum and your feedback! Before the heyday of the web years ago, information on reproductions and fakes would take time to circulate. Thank goodness now we can pass information along immediately to quickly defeat the charlatans! The forum is especially great for novices such as myself. Fortunately, I did not have to pay for this tool!

08-03-2007, 06:46 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Look at how thick this one is... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1 "Mauser" marking looks a bit off, as well... And then check out this Navy one... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

08-05-2007, 05:59 PM	#11
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 308 Thanks: 2 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts	The E/63 is a repo. Never saw a navy marked tool with those marks on it. Not saying I have seen all of them. Read the discription in the eBay offering for the navy, people will say anything to justify the sale. Joe __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.

08-05-2007, 06:17 PM	#12
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	The navy marked tool is a fantasy piece. The die that was used was one that came out of Europe in the 70's/80's and were sold in SGN. I have seen holsters and Mauser 1910/34 and HSc with same bogus marks. Tom A

08-25-2007, 02:24 PM	#13
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	This one looks too thick and I do not like the execution of the Imperial/Crown stamping... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1