1900 AE toggle grip question

[skeeter4206]

I recently saw what appeared to be a 1900 AE 30 cal luger at a local gun show. I own a 1900 AE and what I have seen on this forum for the most, have dished toggle grips.

This AE luger I saw had a toggle that was not dished and had the skinny style barrel on it. It did have the american eage crest on it though.

As I did not get a chance to really hold it and look at it close, I was curious about the toggle grips.

My question to all, is this proper for an AE style luger (non-dished grips)?

[lugerholsterrepair]

Might be an 06. They changed to regular toggles then

[skeeter4206]

Are the 1906 9mm AE though. This one had 7.65 on the tag it had on it. Are these lugers a little more colectable or about the same as most AE.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Yes..1906 AE in .30 Luger and some in 9mm less than 1900 but still strong

[skeeter4206]

Thanks! This cat was asking around 3 grand for it though. Whats your thoughts on that price?

[alanint]

Condition, Condition, Condition......

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by skeeter4206

This AE luger I saw had a toggle that was not dished and had the skinny style barrel on it...My question to all, is this proper for an AE style luger (non-dished grips)?

I have been pondering this question myself...Not is it proper, but how hard would it be to dish a set of 08 toggle knobs...

And the answer is...Not hard at all...

[lugerholsterrepair]

Dished toggle knobs would not jibe with a coil main spring..can't have it both ways!

[Edward Tinker]

I have a top condition 1906 AE that Tom Whiteman has for me for sale, i think he put $2800 or less on it for me?

I have a 1906 AE in 9mm that I bought several years ago for around $2600, it is in very nice condition.


Ed

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Dished toggle knobs would not jibe with a coil main spring..can't have it both ways!

Jerry, the only question in my mind is...Should I grind the dishes in the P08 knobs, or mill them???

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by postino

Jerry, the only question in my mind is...Should I grind the dishes in the P08 knobs, or mill them???

Are they soft enough to mill, or will you anneal and re-temper after working on them? If hard, gentle, cool grinding is what I'd do. I think the knurling is slightly different on the 2 styles, so you might have to fudge that.

D.P.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Are they soft enough to mill...

Well, we know the mechanics have been working them over...I'd guess they're machinable...I put the dish at 1 3/4" diameter...Biggest end mill I have is 1 1/2"...So if I milled the dishes, it'd be in the superspacer [rotary indexing head] and then I could use any size carbide end mill I have...Take a while to set up, and maybe need a special jig...

I'm only trying to dish the knob like the 1900's...I don't care about the knurling...It's for visual impact only, not for authenticity...

I'll have lots of time for projects like this after 30 November...

[Karl]

P-08 toggle is 1.412" wide, 1900 toggle is 1.566" wide. It seems like a small difference until you try pulling (instead of pinching) back a P-08 toggle.
KFS

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Karl

P-08 toggle is 1.412" wide, 1900 toggle is 1.566" wide.

Interesting. I get 1.418" and 1.568", respectively. With the 1900 AE dish being the same width (in the rear) as the frame ear width...

I'm going to have to rethink my plan to machine a set of P08 toggle knobs...I'll practice on a piece of tubing turned to P08 knob sizes...Maybe increase the 'dish' radius...Hmmmm...

[Karl]

Rich,

Your measurements are virtually identical to mine. Pehaps you could mill the faces of a P-08 toggle flat and graft on an extension, maybe press fit into the hole in the toggle.
KFS