Fonts on Mag

wayne8661 · 04-25-2017, 01:15 PM

All, I picked this up today and for the price It was worth a shot.
My concerns are this.

The fonts seem to be a bit small for the period of mag it is.

The wood that the base is made of I have seen on Erfurt mags but not so much on early DWM mags.

Overall its a great mag with Verdigris on the mag tube and concentrations of it at the area where wood am metal meet.

What do you guys think? Good or renumbered?

wayne8661 · 04-25-2017, 01:25 PM

a few more pics that I took with my phone. The first round of pics were from the seller.

wlyon · 04-25-2017, 01:40 PM

My question is did they use beech for bottoms that early? I say early due to the location of the numbers. I at least have never seen an early oak bottom. Maybe there were?? Bill

wayne8661 · 04-25-2017, 01:42 PM

I am wondering the same Bill. Thats why I need the gurus help.

W

spacecoast · 04-25-2017, 01:43 PM

I associate those lighter stripes with beech wood that came at the end of WWI and later. My expectation is that an early DWM wood bottom would be walnut.

I'm sure someone will come along and correct my expectations...

DonVoigt · 04-25-2017, 02:08 PM

I think it is a late commercial mag that has had "old style" military numbers added in the wrong font size.

Norme · 04-25-2017, 02:14 PM

Hi Wayne,
The magazine you show has definitely been renumbered. Quite apart from the fact that beech was not used for magazine bases or grips prior to 1916, the serial numbers are inverted. I show a genuine early magazine below.
Regards, Norm

George Anderson · 04-25-2017, 02:23 PM

It's a fake made from a early post WWI commercial DWM mag. All of Don's observations are correct.

wayne8661 · 04-25-2017, 02:25 PM

Live and learn. Paid a price of a standard mag so no loss.

Thanks Gents

wlyon · 04-25-2017, 04:14 PM

My mistake. they were beech. And me a Forester. Old age is hell. Bill

DonVoigt · 04-25-2017, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlyon

My mistake. they were beech. And me a Forester. Old age is hell. Bill

That's ok Bill; I used to be a chemist and now sometimes I can't find the salt shaker!

04-25-2017, 01:15 PM	#1
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Fonts on Mag All, I picked this up today and for the price It was worth a shot. My concerns are this. The fonts seem to be a bit small for the period of mag it is. The wood that the base is made of I have seen on Erfurt mags but not so much on early DWM mags. Overall its a great mag with Verdigris on the mag tube and concentrations of it at the area where wood am metal meet. What do you guys think? Good or renumbered? Attached Thumbnails

04-25-2017, 01:25 PM	#2
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	a few more pics that I took with my phone. The first round of pics were from the seller. Attached Thumbnails

04-25-2017, 01:40 PM	#3
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,523 Times in 940 Posts	My question is did they use beech for bottoms that early? I say early due to the location of the numbers. I at least have never seen an early oak bottom. Maybe there were?? Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

04-25-2017, 01:43 PM	#5
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	I associate those lighter stripes with beech wood that came at the end of WWI and later. My expectation is that an early DWM wood bottom would be walnut. I'm sure someone will come along and correct my expectations... __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95 Last edited by spacecoast; 04-26-2017 at 07:32 AM.

04-25-2017, 02:08 PM	#6
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,440 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	I think it is a late commercial mag that has had "old style" military numbers added in the wrong font size. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

04-25-2017, 01:42 PM	#4
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	I am wondering the same Bill. Thats why I need the gurus help. W

04-25-2017, 02:14 PM	#7
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Wayne, The magazine you show has definitely been renumbered. Quite apart from the fact that beech was not used for magazine bases or grips prior to 1916, the serial numbers are inverted. I show a genuine early magazine below. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

04-25-2017, 02:23 PM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	It's a fake made from a early post WWI commercial DWM mag. All of Don's observations are correct.

04-25-2017, 02:25 PM	#9
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Live and learn. Paid a price of a standard mag so no loss. Thanks Gents

04-25-2017, 04:14 PM	#10
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,523 Times in 940 Posts	My mistake. they were beech. And me a Forester. Old age is hell. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon