single-digit or two-digit serials ...

Alx · 03-30-2013, 12:03 AM

'Any members have Lugers with single digit or double-digit serial numbers, of whatever sub-script ?

Did they by any chance use a preceding zero for 01, 02, 03 etc. up to 10, 11, 12, ... or just 1, 2, 3, .... 9, 10, 11 etc. ?

I personally have a double-digit Luger in the l block, but don't think I have ever held another double-digit Luger, and never have seen a single-digit one, neither in person nor even in a photo. Although that is only about 1/10 of 1% , say of 1,500,000 conservative guesstimate made with the military-pattern serialization, that would be at least 1,400 examples made with a single-digit for a serial number. Enough for some to have survived with any luck, but I would think this constitutes a rarity in its own right, whatever other characteristics, garden-variety or otherwise.

Norme · 03-30-2013, 08:40 AM

Hi Al, In answer to your question, a preceding zero was not used.
Regards, Norm

Alx · 03-30-2013, 09:01 AM

ok, I didn't think so, but then with so few, ....

Thanks Norm, for the clarification.

But the bigger question, has anyone got or seen a single-digit one ?

Norme · 03-30-2013, 09:50 AM

Hi Al, As you rightly surmise, single digit Lugers are very uncommon. If you want to see a couple of single digit Imperial Navies, here you go: 1906 Navy #9, "The Navy Luger" by Görtz/Walter
1906 Navy #2b, "Imperial Lugers" by Still
Regards, Norm

Vlim · 03-30-2013, 10:34 AM

Here are a couple of 2-digits:

Mauser P38 BYF 43 Police contract, number 62.
Ernst Thälmann new VoPo, number 72.

Hmm, I see a pattern

Ron Wood · 03-30-2013, 11:05 AM

The first nine Model 1900 Swiss Military had a serial number preceded by a zero. The very fist one, #01, was formerly in the collection of Henk Visser.

Edward Tinker · 03-30-2013, 11:14 AM

Because they started a new numbering each block of 10k, yes, lot More single digit than you think, and yes, I have seen sn 5' I own sn12 Simson, and have seen others.

Alx · 03-30-2013, 12:26 PM

My own is a 1915 DWM 48l

03-30-2013, 12:03 AM	#1
Alx User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, Tennessee area Posts: 263 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	single-digit or two-digit serials ... 'Any members have Lugers with single digit or double-digit serial numbers, of whatever sub-script ? Did they by any chance use a preceding zero for 01, 02, 03 etc. up to 10, 11, 12, ... or just 1, 2, 3, .... 9, 10, 11 etc. ? I personally have a double-digit Luger in the l block, but don't think I have ever held another double-digit Luger, and never have seen a single-digit one, neither in person nor even in a photo. Although that is only about 1/10 of 1% , say of 1,500,000 conservative guesstimate made with the military-pattern serialization, that would be at least 1,400 examples made with a single-digit for a serial number. Enough for some to have survived with any luck, but I would think this constitutes a rarity in its own right, whatever other characteristics, garden-variety or otherwise. Last edited by Alx; 03-30-2013 at 08:57 AM.

03-30-2013, 10:34 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Here are a couple of 2-digits: Mauser P38 BYF 43 Police contract, number 62. Ernst Thälmann new VoPo, number 72. Hmm, I see a pattern Attached Thumbnails

03-30-2013, 11:05 AM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	The first nine Model 1900 Swiss Military had a serial number preceded by a zero. The very fist one, #01, was formerly in the collection of Henk Visser. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-30-2013, 11:14 AM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	Because they started a new numbering each block of 10k, yes, lot More single digit than you think, and yes, I have seen sn 5' I own sn12 Simson, and have seen others. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-30-2013, 08:40 AM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Al, In answer to your question, a preceding zero was not used. Regards, Norm

03-30-2013, 09:01 AM	#3
Alx User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, Tennessee area Posts: 263 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	ok, I didn't think so, but then with so few, .... Thanks Norm, for the clarification. But the bigger question, has anyone got or seen a single-digit one ?

03-30-2013, 09:50 AM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Al, As you rightly surmise, single digit Lugers are very uncommon. If you want to see a couple of single digit Imperial Navies, here you go: 1906 Navy #9, "The Navy Luger" by Görtz/Walter 1906 Navy #2b, "Imperial Lugers" by Still Regards, Norm

03-30-2013, 12:26 PM	#8
Alx User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, Tennessee area Posts: 263 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	My own is a 1915 DWM 48l