In re the chubby lugers!!

cirelaw · 06-04-2012, 05:39 PM

One gun seems to have taken off this year right behind the Test pieces. How many were made? Where can I fint the whole story? Eric, Esq

drbuster · 06-04-2012, 09:03 PM

Eric, do you have a picture of the other side?

cirelaw · 06-04-2012, 09:27 PM

On display Rock Island Auction. My post stroke memory thinks!!

cirelaw · 06-04-2012, 09:28 PM

The only difference from my test piece is 9mm barrel!!

MFC · 06-05-2012, 02:01 AM

No C/B C/U proofs on the left receiver. Is the serial# in range for a Cartridge Counter? The front of the frame looks like it was sanded down. The profile just doesn't look correct.

cirelaw · 06-05-2012, 08:57 AM

nice work!

Ron Wood · 06-05-2012, 05:22 PM

I agree with Mike, the front of the frame looks really mis-shaped.

The Model 1902 "Fat Barrel" is a landmark weapon. It is the gun that introduced the now universal caliber 9mm Parabellum. It was produced in relatively limited numbers, an estimated 800 Commercial and 900 American Eagle examples. It is also the basis for the fabled U.S. Test Trials Cartridge Counter.

From the beginning of my collecting, a Model 1902 was one of my goals. None other than Ralph Shattuck advised me in the early 1980s that it was a very lofty goal and probably beyond the reach of a beginning collector. I ultimately did land one, and it was a dandy. The late Harry Jones had it recorded in his notes as "one of the best he had ever seen". So set your sights high and who knows, maybe it is attainable. (but beware, many fakes have been produce for such a scarce item)

sheepherder · 06-05-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood

I agree with Mike, the front of the frame looks really mis-shaped.

I know nothing about these, but that frame front sure does look 'angled'...

And as I look at that, my eyes are drawn to the 'scallops' on the front of the receiver...They sure look shorter than any other 'scallops' I've looked at...Is that a common trait among fat barrels/Test Lugers???

cirelaw · 06-05-2012, 07:09 PM

Where either variety have a holster made for them!

Ron Wood · 06-05-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by postino

And as I look at that, my eyes are drawn to the 'scallops' on the front of the receiver...They sure look shorter than any other 'scallops' I've looked at...Is that a common trait among fat barrels/Test Lugers???

Yeah, the '02 scallops are a bit short. Kind of an artifact of the transition from the long frame to the short frame.

06-04-2012, 05:39 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	In re the chubby lugers!! One gun seems to have taken off this year right behind the Test pieces. How many were made? Where can I fint the whole story? Eric, Esq Attached Thumbnails

06-04-2012, 09:27 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	All sides On display Rock Island Auction. My post stroke memory thinks!! Attached Thumbnails

06-05-2012, 02:01 AM	#5
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	No C/B C/U proofs on the left receiver. Is the serial# in range for a Cartridge Counter? The front of the frame looks like it was sanded down. The profile just doesn't look correct. __________________ Mike C.

06-05-2012, 05:22 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	I agree with Mike, the front of the frame looks really mis-shaped. The Model 1902 "Fat Barrel" is a landmark weapon. It is the gun that introduced the now universal caliber 9mm Parabellum. It was produced in relatively limited numbers, an estimated 800 Commercial and 900 American Eagle examples. It is also the basis for the fabled U.S. Test Trials Cartridge Counter. From the beginning of my collecting, a Model 1902 was one of my goals. None other than Ralph Shattuck advised me in the early 1980s that it was a very lofty goal and probably beyond the reach of a beginning collector. I ultimately did land one, and it was a dandy. The late Harry Jones had it recorded in his notes as "one of the best he had ever seen". So set your sights high and who knows, maybe it is attainable. (but beware, many fakes have been produce for such a scarce item) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-04-2012, 09:03 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Eric, do you have a picture of the other side?

06-04-2012, 09:28 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	The only difference from my test piece is 9mm barrel!!

06-05-2012, 08:57 AM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	nice work!

06-05-2012, 07:09 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Where either variety have a holster made for them!