Jack the Dog has TE

nukem556 · 12-20-2011, 08:22 PM

Jack the Dog has Test Eagle ser # 6227 for sale on Auction Arms with no reserve... it's currently at 1725.00 ...hmmmmm!
Pretty decent condition, I did notice the little hook on the toggle lock latch is broken. Be interesting to see what it goes for!

http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...emnum=10709892

Edward Tinker · 12-20-2011, 09:30 PM

Is 6227 a bannerman number?

And to the postings I deleted, its best if folks don't cause trouble for the hell of it...

hgreer2 · 12-20-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Is 6227 a bannerman number?

And to the postings I deleted, its best if folks don't cause trouble for the hell of it...

How about if folks defend their honor, is that forbidden, I don't care ban me .
Harry

Ron Wood · 12-20-2011, 09:38 PM

6227 is not a Bannerman number. It is part of that 62XX range with only 6287 being in the Bannerman purchase. To date there have been 31 surviving examples reported in that 62XX range.

John D. · 12-20-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hgreer2

How about if folks defend their honor...

Or how about other folks defend the right of folks to post their threads/posts without being harassed with your nonsense...

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Originally Posted by hgreer2

...I don't care ban me .
Harry

Ok-doaky....

John D.

Edward Tinker · 12-20-2011, 10:52 PM

I warned him John

Even told him, if John D sees this, you're outta here...

John D. · 12-20-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I warned him John

Even told him, if John D sees this, you're outta here...

No problem.. But, back on topic...

Ron - are you saying this is a Test Luger - even though it's outside the Bannerman serials? I was looking at the auction, and except for a few "nits" - looks pretty good..??

Best to you!

John

Ron Wood · 12-20-2011, 11:34 PM

John,
The probability that this is a Test Luger is very high. But, as has been repeatedly stated, the only proof positive is if the piece was part of the Bannerman purchase as they were recorded by serial number. There are the 50 pieces that were traded by the Army for the 9mm Cartridge Counters and records of individual purchases of Test guns that do not have serial numbers associated. Any Luger not on the Bannerman list but falling in the approximate 6100-7200 serial number range may have been a Test piece. But obviously, out of that 1100 pistols only 1000 of them qualifiy. We may never know which ones are actual Test examples.

John D. · 12-21-2011, 08:08 AM

Hi Ron!

Many thanks for the explanation!! What you are saying makes perfect sense.

My Best to you!

John

lugerholsterrepair · 12-21-2011, 12:00 PM

Ben, Not the mag release..the take down lever.

Hugo Borchardt · 12-30-2011, 06:56 PM

I look for:

- last two digits of serial number on right side of takedown lever

- no "Germany" export stamp below serial on front of frame

- serial # on reported Bannerman list

Cheers!

Clark

Hugo Borchardt · 01-02-2012, 10:21 AM

Update: Sold for $6022

I bid about half that

Ron Wood · 01-02-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugo Borchardt

Update: Sold for $6022

Incredible!

sheepherder · 01-02-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugo Borchardt

Update: Sold for $6022

I bid about half that

I wonder if it will show up here???

bigborefan · 01-02-2012, 01:02 PM

I see last bid at $7019 when I went to the auction site.

Ron Wood · 01-02-2012, 02:15 PM

Even more incredible! Looks like two guys got into a feeding frenzy during the last half hour of the auction.

CAP Black · 01-02-2012, 03:56 PM

I have followed this episode with much interest in off & on periods. I was kind of wondering out it would unfurl. I appreciate how the problems were handled. I don't remember the details but understand the resolution of the dilemma.
Isn't it odd how people can get upset at some situations and lose their cook?

12-20-2011, 08:22 PM	#1
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Jack the Dog has TE Jack the Dog has Test Eagle ser # 6227 for sale on Auction Arms with no reserve... it's currently at 1725.00 ...hmmmmm! Pretty decent condition, I did notice the little hook on the toggle lock latch is broken. Be interesting to see what it goes for! http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...emnum=10709892

12-20-2011, 09:38 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,096 Times in 1,676 Posts	6227 is not a Bannerman number. It is part of that 62XX range with only 6287 being in the Bannerman purchase. To date there have been 31 surviving examples reported in that 62XX range. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction Last edited by Ron Wood; 12-21-2011 at 01:12 AM.

12-20-2011, 11:34 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,096 Times in 1,676 Posts	John, The probability that this is a Test Luger is very high. But, as has been repeatedly stated, the only proof positive is if the piece was part of the Bannerman purchase as they were recorded by serial number. There are the 50 pieces that were traded by the Army for the 9mm Cartridge Counters and records of individual purchases of Test guns that do not have serial numbers associated. Any Luger not on the Bannerman list but falling in the approximate 6100-7200 serial number range may have been a Test piece. But obviously, out of that 1100 pistols only 1000 of them qualifiy. We may never know which ones are actual Test examples. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-21-2011, 12:00 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,855 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Ben, Not the mag release..the take down lever. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-30-2011, 06:56 PM	#11
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts	I look for: - last two digits of serial number on right side of takedown lever - no "Germany" export stamp below serial on front of frame - serial # on reported Bannerman list Cheers! Clark __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

12-20-2011, 09:30 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Is 6227 a bannerman number? And to the postings I deleted, its best if folks don't cause trouble for the hell of it...

12-20-2011, 10:52 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I warned him John Even told him, if John D sees this, you're outta here...

12-21-2011, 08:08 AM	#9
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hi Ron! Many thanks for the explanation!! What you are saying makes perfect sense. My Best to you! John

01-02-2012, 10:21 AM	#12
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts	Update: Sold for $6022 I bid about half that __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

01-02-2012, 01:02 PM	#15
bigborefan Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I see last bid at $7019 when I went to the auction site.

01-02-2012, 02:15 PM	#16
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,096 Times in 1,676 Posts	Even more incredible! Looks like two guys got into a feeding frenzy during the last half hour of the auction. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-02-2012, 03:56 PM	#17
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	I have followed this episode with much interest in off & on periods. I was kind of wondering out it would unfurl. I appreciate how the problems were handled. I don't remember the details but understand the resolution of the dilemma. Isn't it odd how people can get upset at some situations and lose their cook?