Ammo Identification

jesilva · 04-16-2005, 07:26 PM

I have three rounds of 9mm ammo. They have steel cases with black colored bullers. The headstamp is as follows:

St+ 6 45 dnh

Could I get some assistance in identifying this ammo.

Thank You

Edward Tinker · 04-16-2005, 07:34 PM

Hello James, I moved your thread to here, as it didn't really belong in the "holsters" part of the forum...

I am sure there will be other folks that will know and be able to help you.

Ed

Vlim · 04-17-2005, 10:25 AM

Hi,

Th St+ represents Stahl or steel. The material the case was made of. The black tip is constucted from iron slack and is called 'Sintereisenkern'. Usually the packaging says 'S.E'. These rounds don't work very well in the P08 and the packaging had a warning stating that they were only limitedly useable in the P08. These are late war products (as the 45 designates, this lot was produced in 1945).

They were used in the P08, although they frequently caused jams, as the P08 doesn't like extracting steel cases. I have a dug-up P08 which still had a St+ marked steel case in the chamber.

DNH is Rheinische Westfalische Sprengstoff A.G. (RWS) in Durlach, near Karlsruhe.

Lugerdoc · 04-17-2005, 10:56 AM

If you shoot these armour percing rounds out of your pistol, you will notice a lot of color out of the end of the barrel. These are sparks from the steel bullets, wearing away your bore. One way to get rid of pitting, I guess. TH

Vlim · 04-17-2005, 04:21 PM

Tom,

Haha. Nice. Perhaps development of a preshaped steel bullet for automatic barrel relining is an idea

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jesilva User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ammo Identification I have three rounds of 9mm ammo. They have steel cases with black colored bullers. The headstamp is as follows: St+ 6 45 dnh Could I get some assistance in identifying this ammo. Thank You

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Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	If you shoot these armour percing rounds out of your pistol, you will notice a lot of color out of the end of the barrel. These are sparks from the steel bullets, wearing away your bore. One way to get rid of pitting, I guess. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

04-16-2005, 07:34 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,987 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Hello James, I moved your thread to here, as it didn't really belong in the "holsters" part of the forum... I am sure there will be other folks that will know and be able to help you. Ed

04-17-2005, 10:25 AM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi, Th St+ represents Stahl or steel. The material the case was made of. The black tip is constucted from iron slack and is called 'Sintereisenkern'. Usually the packaging says 'S.E'. These rounds don't work very well in the P08 and the packaging had a warning stating that they were only limitedly useable in the P08. These are late war products (as the 45 designates, this lot was produced in 1945). They were used in the P08, although they frequently caused jams, as the P08 doesn't like extracting steel cases. I have a dug-up P08 which still had a St+ marked steel case in the chamber. DNH is Rheinische Westfalische Sprengstoff A.G. (RWS) in Durlach, near Karlsruhe.

04-17-2005, 04:21 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Tom, Haha. Nice. Perhaps development of a preshaped steel bullet for automatic barrel relining is an idea