1936 Holster

marine kabar · 10-31-2004, 07:04 PM

I've got a black hardshell holster on the way for my "G" code S/42 pistol. It's maker marked Gustav Genschow of Berlin and has that droop wing eagle and acceptance stamp and the number 387. Dated 1936. Anybody familiar with this holster maker? Also, what's the going value range of these nowadays?

Ron Smith · 10-31-2004, 08:26 PM

Greg,
Genschow was one of the most prolific makers of Luger and P.38 holsters. A 1936 holster, if in nice cond. Can sell for $200+.
Leather prices are going nuts.
Ron

marine kabar · 11-01-2004, 05:54 AM

Ron

Appreciate that. I knew it was legit based on who I'm getting it from but it's always nice to hear a second opinion. :-)

Also...what about a P.38 holster that looks maker marked gcx WaA 930 dated 1941? I assume that's a "g" but the way they did some of those characters makes them hard to read.

Thanks
Greg

Ron Smith · 11-01-2004, 08:57 AM

Greg, The gcx marked WaA 930 is made by Carl Brettschneider, Maeher-Schoenberg.
I just sold a BYF 42 P.38 rig with a 1942 holster
made by the same maker WaA B17. Very scarce. The WaA B17 was assigned to Brettschneider for only 1-2 months in 1942. They then went back to 930. No one seems to know why, but it is documented.
Ron

Lugerdoc · 11-02-2004, 09:15 AM

Greg, Gustof Genschow's trade name is GECO and I believe that they are still in business today. During WW2 they sold many commerical pistols & holsters to officers thru their store and catalog, as well as making PO8 & P38 holsters for the military. I've also seen some post war P38, Star B, FNHP, etc holsters marked GECO. TH

marine kabar · 11-02-2004, 09:51 AM

I've seen that GECO name somewhere but can't recall where it was. It was on a holster or other leather item, I believe. I'm looking forward to seeing this 1936 holster as it should go well with my S/42 pistol.

Greg

Ron Smith · 11-02-2004, 10:11 AM

Greg, Have you posted photos of your S/42? We would like to see it, if you haven't. Is it a 1936?
Ron

marine kabar · 11-02-2004, 11:27 AM

No...I haven't. It's a "G" code so 1935. Being no better than 60% finish I didn't figure the serious gun collectors would be interested in seeing it. But it appealed to me mainly 'cause it's in such top condition mechanically and not a rattle trap like so many guns of that vintage.

But I wouldn't mind posting it. How do I do that?

Ron Smith · 11-02-2004, 11:53 AM

Greg, There's always interest in Lugers. And possibly somemore to be learned. Your 60% estimate may turn out to be lower than you thought. You may be suprised.It can't hurt.
Ron

marine kabar · 11-02-2004, 12:37 PM

I uploaded a couple images but now can't find them. I looked in the "gallery" and my search failed to locate them. I tried to register in the "gallery" and got refused so I give up

Greg

John Sabato · 11-02-2004, 12:51 PM

Greg,

Suck it up Marine...

(From a 20 year Army vet

)

The only reason you haven't found your photos is that you just failed to follow instructions on the screen after the upload. Try one more time and carefully heed the instructions on the upload screen.

When you successfully upload a photo, you are presented with the image of that photo and directly under it you will see the URL for it's location...

In order to reference a photo you have uploaded in a message post, you must copy and paste that URL into your message post using the "image" tag button of the postreply screen.

The reason you couldn't register into the member gallery, which is a completely separate software package from the Lugerforum, is probably because you attempted to use your Lugerforum screen name to register...you must not use spaces in your user name in the Member Gallery...because that software won't allow it.

Try registering using the name "marinekabar" and you should be successful... Oh, one last thing Greg, you can't have any Pop-up blocker software running when you use the Gallery because you have to interact with it using pop-up dialog boxes...

If you need help uploading and using photos, check out the excellent photo tutorial that is at the top of the Site Help & Feedback forum... it has helped countless members in posting of photos...

I hope this has been helpful...

Stand at ease !

marine kabar · 11-02-2004, 12:57 PM

Yeah :-( I was being hard headed and not following the directions :-)

Here's the URL's

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...ger1_copy1.jpg

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...uger_copy1.jpg

Greg

John Sabato · 11-02-2004, 01:12 PM

...Great Job Greg.

Now if you learn to use the "image" button under the "Instant UBB Code" heading... and paste your URL in the pop-up box, it will display your photo instead of just creating a link like this...

Nice gun !!

Vlim · 11-02-2004, 06:06 PM

Hi,

GeCo is still a wellknown ammunition brand over here. Have a 1936 holster myself, but the flap is in a really bad condition (flaking leather).

marine kabar · 11-02-2004, 06:38 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by G. van Vlimmeren:
Hi,

GeCo is still a wellknown ammunition brand over here. Have a 1936 holster myself, but the flap is in a really bad condition (flaking leather).<hr /></blockquote>THAT's where I saw that name before. When I bought an old Colt .32ACP pocket pistol a few months ago it came with a handful of "GECO" marked .32 caliber rounds. I shot them and they seemed fine....not sure how old they were.

10-31-2004, 07:04 PM	#1
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1936 Holster I've got a black hardshell holster on the way for my "G" code S/42 pistol. It's maker marked Gustav Genschow of Berlin and has that droop wing eagle and acceptance stamp and the number 387. Dated 1936. Anybody familiar with this holster maker? Also, what's the going value range of these nowadays?

10-31-2004, 08:26 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Greg, Genschow was one of the most prolific makers of Luger and P.38 holsters. A 1936 holster, if in nice cond. Can sell for $200+. Leather prices are going nuts. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-01-2004, 08:57 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Greg, The gcx marked WaA 930 is made by Carl Brettschneider, Maeher-Schoenberg. I just sold a BYF 42 P.38 rig with a 1942 holster made by the same maker WaA B17. Very scarce. The WaA B17 was assigned to Brettschneider for only 1-2 months in 1942. They then went back to 930. No one seems to know why, but it is documented. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-02-2004, 09:15 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Greg, Gustof Genschow's trade name is GECO and I believe that they are still in business today. During WW2 they sold many commerical pistols & holsters to officers thru their store and catalog, as well as making PO8 & P38 holsters for the military. I've also seen some post war P38, Star B, FNHP, etc holsters marked GECO. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-02-2004, 10:11 AM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Greg, Have you posted photos of your S/42? We would like to see it, if you haven't. Is it a 1936? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-01-2004, 05:54 AM	#3
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron Appreciate that. I knew it was legit based on who I'm getting it from but it's always nice to hear a second opinion. :-) Also...what about a P.38 holster that looks maker marked gcx WaA 930 dated 1941? I assume that's a "g" but the way they did some of those characters makes them hard to read. Thanks Greg

11-02-2004, 09:51 AM	#6
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've seen that GECO name somewhere but can't recall where it was. It was on a holster or other leather item, I believe. I'm looking forward to seeing this 1936 holster as it should go well with my S/42 pistol. Greg

11-02-2004, 11:27 AM	#8
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No...I haven't. It's a "G" code so 1935. Being no better than 60% finish I didn't figure the serious gun collectors would be interested in seeing it. But it appealed to me mainly 'cause it's in such top condition mechanically and not a rattle trap like so many guns of that vintage. But I wouldn't mind posting it. How do I do that?

11-02-2004, 11:53 AM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Greg, There's always interest in Lugers. And possibly somemore to be learned. Your 60% estimate may turn out to be lower than you thought. You may be suprised.It can't hurt. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-02-2004, 12:37 PM	#10
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I uploaded a couple images but now can't find them. I looked in the "gallery" and my search failed to locate them. I tried to register in the "gallery" and got refused so I give up Greg

11-02-2004, 12:51 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Greg, *Suck it up Marine...* (From a 20 year Army vet ) The only reason you haven't found your photos is that you just failed to follow instructions on the screen after the upload. Try one more time and carefully heed the instructions on the upload screen. When you successfully upload a photo, you are presented with the image of that photo and directly under it you will see the URL for it's location... In order to reference a photo you have uploaded in a message post, you must copy and paste that URL into your message post using the "image" tag button of the postreply screen. The reason you couldn't register into the member gallery, which is a completely separate software package from the Lugerforum, is probably because you attempted to use your Lugerforum screen name to register...you must not use spaces in your user name in the Member Gallery...because that software won't allow it. Try registering using the name "marinekabar" and you should be successful... Oh, one last thing Greg, you can't have any Pop-up blocker software running when you use the Gallery because you have to interact with it using pop-up dialog boxes... If you need help uploading and using photos, check out the excellent photo tutorial that is at the top of the Site Help & Feedback forum... it has helped countless members in posting of photos... I hope this has been helpful... Stand at ease ! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-02-2004, 12:57 PM	#12
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah :-( I was being hard headed and not following the directions :-) Here's the URL's http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...ger1_copy1.jpg http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...uger_copy1.jpg Greg

11-02-2004, 01:12 PM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	...Great Job Greg. Now if you learn to use the "image" button under the "Instant UBB Code" heading... and paste your URL in the pop-up box, it will display your photo instead of just creating a link like this... Nice gun !! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-02-2004, 06:06 PM	#14
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi, GeCo is still a wellknown ammunition brand over here. Have a 1936 holster myself, but the flap is in a really bad condition (flaking leather).

11-02-2004, 06:38 PM	#15
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by G. van Vlimmeren: <strong>Hi, GeCo is still a wellknown ammunition brand over here. Have a 1936 holster myself, but the flap is in a really bad condition (flaking leather).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">THAT's where I saw that name before. When I bought an old Colt .32ACP pocket pistol a few months ago it came with a handful of "GECO" marked .32 caliber rounds. I shot them and they seemed fine....not sure how old they were.