FAILURE TO EXTRACT(SOMETIMES)

07-21-2001, 02:09 PM

As expected my luger sometimes even with the 124 grain 9mm ammo either fails to fully eject the bullet or worse the shell is still lodged in the barrel the next bullet in the mag is pushing hard upon the toggle is locked open hence a jam! I noticed there is play in my extractor up and down and front to back. I may have been over zealous in cleaning it and stretched the extractor spring while lifting it up to clean out crud. Any thoughts or solutions appreciated

HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr · 07-21-2001, 04:14 PM

Hi

Can a shell hang in the extractor if you lightly shake the breachblock outside of the gun?

The extractor have to hold a quite hard grip on the case to exctract it.

If not I think you should examine the tip of the extractor to see if its harmed.

If that is ok change the extractor spring.

Another possible source might also be a rough or to big chamber.

If the chamber is to rough it's need polishing but if its to big in diameter, it needs a new chamber(barrel)

Regards HÃ?Â¥kan

http://www.vapensmedjan.com

Uncle Mike · 07-21-2001, 05:14 PM

Hi,I had the same problem but first changed magazines and luckily this was the problem.I have in the past found two magazines one a P38 and one a P08 both with the springs in backwards.Maybe thats why the pistols were sold.Mike

07-22-2001, 01:23 PM

Bob, I experienced the same thing. In my case it was a broken extractor.

The pin that holds the extractor in goes through a "V" groove, not a hole. (the replacements have a hole) The bottom part of the "V" had about 1/32" broken off. That was enough to allow play in the extractor and cause unreliable function.

Hope this helps.

BobL

07-23-2001, 08:14 PM

thank you! you hit it on the head! any idea how much this will run me? and must i use aimco or can I use general luger replacement?

07-25-2001, 10:39 AM

Aimco and "orginial" Luger parts are not interchangable. For Aimco, you'll have to go back to the manufacturer (sole source) Tom Heller has a good supply of original and repo parts for the standard Luger at fair prices. Failing Tom, you might want to try MarStar in Canda(see links to the Left) their prices are good because of the dollar exchange rate. But shipping is very slow because everything must go postal ground. Also, you will find some debate about quality if you follow some old threads.

07-21-2001, 02:09 PM	#1
BOB REGERS Guest Posts: n/a	FAILURE TO EXTRACT(SOMETIMES) As expected my luger sometimes even with the 124 grain 9mm ammo either fails to fully eject the bullet or worse the shell is still lodged in the barrel the next bullet in the mag is pushing hard upon the toggle is locked open hence a jam! I noticed there is play in my extractor up and down and front to back. I may have been over zealous in cleaning it and stretched the extractor spring while lifting it up to clean out crud. Any thoughts or solutions appreciated

07-21-2001, 04:14 PM	#2
HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FAILURE TO EXTRACT(SOMETIMES) Hi Can a shell hang in the extractor if you lightly shake the breachblock outside of the gun? The extractor have to hold a quite hard grip on the case to exctract it. If not I think you should examine the tip of the extractor to see if its harmed. If that is ok change the extractor spring. Another possible source might also be a rough or to big chamber. If the chamber is to rough it's need polishing but if its to big in diameter, it needs a new chamber(barrel) Regards HÃ?Â¥kan http://www.vapensmedjan.com

07-21-2001, 05:14 PM	#3
Uncle Mike User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 53 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FAILURE TO EXTRACT(SOMETIMES) Hi,I had the same problem but first changed magazines and luckily this was the problem.I have in the past found two magazines one a P38 and one a P08 both with the springs in backwards.Maybe thats why the pistols were sold.Mike

07-22-2001, 01:23 PM	#4
BobL Guest Posts: n/a	Re: FAILURE TO EXTRACT(SOMETIMES) Bob, I experienced the same thing. In my case it was a broken extractor. The pin that holds the extractor in goes through a "V" groove, not a hole. (the replacements have a hole) The bottom part of the "V" had about 1/32" broken off. That was enough to allow play in the extractor and cause unreliable function. Hope this helps. BobL

07-23-2001, 08:14 PM	#5
BOB REGERS Guest Posts: n/a	Re: FAILURE TO EXTRACT(SOMETIMES) thank you! you hit it on the head! any idea how much this will run me? and must i use aimco or can I use general luger replacement?

07-25-2001, 10:39 AM	#6
Roger Seymour Guest Posts: n/a	Re: FAILURE TO EXTRACT(SOMETIMES) Aimco and "orginial" Luger parts are not interchangable. For Aimco, you'll have to go back to the manufacturer (sole source) Tom Heller has a good supply of original and repo parts for the standard Luger at fair prices. Failing Tom, you might want to try MarStar in Canda(see links to the Left) their prices are good because of the dollar exchange rate. But shipping is very slow because everything must go postal ground. Also, you will find some debate about quality if you follow some old threads.