Humped "G" date Mauser

oneshy · 09-24-2005, 09:54 PM

Gunrunner auction no.811702499. Looks badly engraved rather than stamped and slightly off center. I'll try a link http://www.gunrunnerauctions.com/lis...mnum=811702499 Would you call it a reblue also? This is a test to see if I'm learning anything.

Edward Tinker · 09-24-2005, 09:59 PM

hmmmmm, interesting how the matching magazine looks like it is from 1937, while the rest of the gun is 97%

c3006 · 09-24-2005, 10:10 PM

If that gun has been reblued the pics would have fooled me,Im curious to see what others think. clink

the gunman · 09-24-2005, 10:32 PM

Must say maybe Im stupid but sure does not look like a reblue to me. Mag also looks good.
Sure wish I was an Expert.

drbuster · 09-25-2005, 01:09 AM

It looks like a righteous late "G" date to me, with the suffix "c". It appears to have the proper DE/63 proofs on the right side of the receiver. The blue looks original. A very nice "G" date.

hqbmw · 09-25-2005, 01:16 AM

I think it is strange to see the aution #153 and the gun numbered 154. Bait and switch or mistake?

Jack

Edward Tinker · 09-25-2005, 01:31 AM

I know there are lots of really nice guns out there, but nice guns still cause me pause.

These guns are over 60 years old and were carried in war. I am just amazed at how many "nice guns I see, and I'm therefor skeptical about them...

Always something to consider; if the magazine is rough, and this one is okay, but still makes me wonder, or if the barrel is pitted on the inside (and I have no idea if it is), then the outside should show wear with as much wear as the magazine and / or barrel would show.

Ed

drbuster · 09-25-2005, 10:16 AM

Ed, I completely understand your point of view. I shared the same view until fairly recently. I have been seeing very nice matching lugers coming out of old collections, being sold off by heirs who do not have an interest in such pieces, like we do. Time has passed and has claimed many old time collectors, many of whom had their pick of the litter, so to speak, after WW1 and 2. Keep in mind that not EVERY military man saw front line action. Some certainly rarely took their P.08 out of its holster. I own a 41 dated Mauser banner commercial that is in absolute pristine condition (said to be out of the Mel Trome collection) that has a almost totally trashed bore. It was fired by someone a few times and never cleaned. These things do happen and just present further challenges to collectors to make sure they are not products of Waffenfabrik USA. That's why one must have "experts" lined up to examine the piece during the necessary three day trial period.

drbuster · 09-25-2005, 10:19 AM

By the way, totally off the above subject, but I fail to see that this "G" date has a Mauser hump. I don't believe any did.

oneshy · 09-25-2005, 10:52 AM

By way of comparison, these 2 have much more pronounced G's. Perhaps styles were changed some time during production. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=37433252
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=37776998

Lyn Islaub · 09-25-2005, 08:14 PM

Kind of looks to me as if the mag has been restamped. There are shadows above the 4 and the 2 and the 1 is out of alignment with the other numbers. It's a pretty pistol, but the total absense of side plate and muzzle wear makes me wonder. Guess the excellance of the fakers as of late is making me a skeptic.
Lyn

09-24-2005, 10:10 PM	#3
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	If that gun has been reblued the pics would have fooled me,Im curious to see what others think. clink __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

09-25-2005, 01:16 AM	#6
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think it is strange to see the aution #153 and the gun numbered 154. Bait and switch or mistake? Jack __________________ Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

09-24-2005, 09:54 PM	#1
oneshy User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houma,La Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Humped "G" date Mauser Gunrunner auction no.811702499. Looks badly engraved rather than stamped and slightly off center. I'll try a link http://www.gunrunnerauctions.com/lis...mnum=811702499 Would you call it a reblue also? This is a test to see if I'm learning anything.

09-24-2005, 09:59 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	hmmmmm, interesting how the matching magazine looks like it is from 1937, while the rest of the gun is 97%

09-24-2005, 10:32 PM	#4
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Must say maybe Im stupid but sure does not look like a reblue to me. Mag also looks good. Sure wish I was an Expert.

09-25-2005, 01:09 AM	#5
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	It looks like a righteous late "G" date to me, with the suffix "c". It appears to have the proper DE/63 proofs on the right side of the receiver. The blue looks original. A very nice "G" date.

09-25-2005, 01:31 AM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	I know there are lots of really nice guns out there, but nice guns still cause me pause. These guns are over 60 years old and were carried in war. I am just amazed at how many "nice guns I see, and I'm therefor skeptical about them... Always something to consider; if the magazine is rough, and this one is okay, but still makes me wonder, or if the barrel is pitted on the inside (and I have no idea if it is), then the outside should show wear with as much wear as the magazine and / or barrel would show. Ed

09-25-2005, 10:16 AM	#8
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Ed, I completely understand your point of view. I shared the same view until fairly recently. I have been seeing very nice matching lugers coming out of old collections, being sold off by heirs who do not have an interest in such pieces, like we do. Time has passed and has claimed many old time collectors, many of whom had their pick of the litter, so to speak, after WW1 and 2. Keep in mind that not EVERY military man saw front line action. Some certainly rarely took their P.08 out of its holster. I own a 41 dated Mauser banner commercial that is in absolute pristine condition (said to be out of the Mel Trome collection) that has a almost totally trashed bore. It was fired by someone a few times and never cleaned. These things do happen and just present further challenges to collectors to make sure they are not products of Waffenfabrik USA. That's why one must have "experts" lined up to examine the piece during the necessary three day trial period.

09-25-2005, 10:19 AM	#9
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	By the way, totally off the above subject, but I fail to see that this "G" date has a Mauser hump. I don't believe any did.

09-25-2005, 10:52 AM	#10
oneshy User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houma,La Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	By way of comparison, these 2 have much more pronounced G's. Perhaps styles were changed some time during production. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=37433252 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=37776998

09-25-2005, 08:14 PM	#11
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Kind of looks to me as if the mag has been restamped. There are shadows above the 4 and the 2 and the 1 is out of alignment with the other numbers. It's a pretty pistol, but the total absense of side plate and muzzle wear makes me wonder. Guess the excellance of the fakers as of late is making me a skeptic. Lyn