Help identifying this gun.

Head Tomcat · 09-16-2005, 05:38 PM

The spring contained inside the barrel shroud is like that of a Walther PP. It telescopes over the barrel and presses against a shoulder at the front end of the shroud. Thus, when the pistol is fired the entire slide moves to the rear and is restrained by the increasing compression within the spring. The barrel is fixed by the stud/mating hole and just sits there.

Now, if you look at the color photo of the pistol you will see a silver cross bolt towards the rear of the slide. In addition to retaining the firing pin, it also fixes the bolt itself to the upper slide. So, when the pistol is shot, the entire slide moves rearward...including the bolt. The silver "wings" at the extreme rear of the slide (same place as the Mauser C/96) are only to provide a grasping surface to **** the weapon. They are part of the bolt and do not move at all.

The cartridge it uses is definitely a bottle-necked round. You can look into the chamber of the barrel and clearly see where the shoulder is at. Since the cartridge must overcome the mass of the entire bolt/slide assembly - along with the heavy recoil spring - I am now leaning towards a 7.63 Mauser cartridge. Of course, nothing will be fired until I get a good chamber cast and figure out exactly what I have. Since I recently bought a very nice New Hermes pantograph engraver it will be used to properly engrave the caliber on the barrel.

Normally I would never do this to a weapon, but in this case it is probably wise to make an exception to protect the next owner....and me!

The Tom

09-16-2005, 05:38 PM	#14
Head Tomcat User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can answer the spring question... The spring contained inside the barrel shroud is like that of a Walther PP. It telescopes over the barrel and presses against a shoulder at the front end of the shroud. Thus, when the pistol is fired the entire slide moves to the rear and is restrained by the increasing compression within the spring. The barrel is fixed by the stud/mating hole and just sits there. Now, if you look at the color photo of the pistol you will see a silver cross bolt towards the rear of the slide. In addition to retaining the firing pin, it also fixes the bolt itself to the upper slide. So, when the pistol is shot, the entire slide moves rearward...including the bolt. The silver "wings" at the extreme rear of the slide (same place as the Mauser C/96) are only to provide a grasping surface to **** the weapon. They are part of the bolt and do not move at all. The cartridge it uses is definitely a bottle-necked round. You can look into the chamber of the barrel and clearly see where the shoulder is at. Since the cartridge must overcome the mass of the entire bolt/slide assembly - along with the heavy recoil spring - I am now leaning towards a 7.63 Mauser cartridge. Of course, nothing will be fired until I get a good chamber cast and figure out exactly what I have. Since I recently bought a very nice New Hermes pantograph engraver it will be used to properly engrave the caliber on the barrel. Normally I would never do this to a weapon, but in this case it is probably wise to make an exception to protect the next owner....and me! The Tom