I should of asked

zeke1312 · 09-07-2005, 04:42 PM

before I purchased 9mm Winchester 147 GR TCMC @ Wal*Mart. I've noticed from other posts this load is too hot? If, so, I assume I should not use at all?

Hugh · 09-07-2005, 04:47 PM

Not too hot for a Luger! But the bullet is too heavy to reliably work some Lugers actions. The Win 115 gr works much better. Actually, I like the load and it works fine in a few of my "tuned" Lugers.

unspellable · 09-07-2005, 05:04 PM

How would a 147 grain bullet detract from reliability? Are they pushing it out the barrel all that slow?

Hugh · 09-07-2005, 05:09 PM

I dunno, has sumthin to do with the "impulse" on the toggle train, I think the burning rate of the powder is slower than that used with the lighter bullets.

Dwight Gruber · 09-07-2005, 06:03 PM

Zeke,

Shoot it all up and let us know how it works out.

--Dwight

unspellable · 09-07-2005, 06:14 PM

While you do have to have an impulse within the correct range, the powder burning rate doesn't have much to do with that. Could it be that the 147 grainer being more "nose heavy" aggravates the modern 9 mm cartridge's propensity for being too short? Both factors would tend to tilt the nose downward.

Sieger · 09-08-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by unspellable
While you do have to have an impulse within the correct range, the powder burning rate doesn't have much to do with that. Could it be that the 147 grainer being more "nose heavy" aggravates the modern 9 mm cartridge's propensity for being too short? Both factors would tend to tilt the nose downward.

The infamous OAL problem again.

We had a shooter, a few weeks ago, claim that the 147 stuff wouldn't even eject.

Just how slow is this stuff anyway?

Sieger

Dwight Gruber · 09-09-2005, 09:29 PM

As a test, I shot a boxful (50 rounds) of Federal American Eagle FMJ 147-gr out of my 1936 S/42 this afternoon. Mec-Gar magazines. 100% functional reilability.

--Dwight

09-07-2005, 04:42 PM	#1
zeke1312 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I should of asked before I purchased 9mm Winchester 147 GR TCMC @ Wal*Mart. I've noticed from other posts this load is too hot? If, so, I assume I should not use at all?

09-07-2005, 04:47 PM	#2
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Not too hot for a Luger! But the bullet is too heavy to reliably work some Lugers actions. The Win 115 gr works much better. Actually, I like the load and it works fine in a few of my "tuned" Lugers. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

09-07-2005, 05:04 PM	#3
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	147 grains? How would a 147 grain bullet detract from reliability? Are they pushing it out the barrel all that slow?

09-07-2005, 05:09 PM	#4
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	I dunno, has sumthin to do with the "impulse" on the toggle train, I think the burning rate of the powder is slower than that used with the lighter bullets. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

09-07-2005, 06:14 PM	#6
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	147 grainers While you do have to have an impulse within the correct range, the powder burning rate doesn't have much to do with that. Could it be that the 147 grainer being more "nose heavy" aggravates the modern 9 mm cartridge's propensity for being too short? Both factors would tend to tilt the nose downward.

09-07-2005, 06:03 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	Zeke, Shoot it all up and let us know how it works out. --Dwight

09-09-2005, 09:29 PM	#8
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	As a test, I shot a boxful (50 rounds) of Federal American Eagle FMJ 147-gr out of my 1936 S/42 this afternoon. Mec-Gar magazines. 100% functional reilability. --Dwight