Stainless (O NO) steel question <IMG SRC="/luger/graphics/indifferent.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":|">

HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr · 07-01-2001, 03:09 AM

Hi Viggo

As I worked 8 years a Toolmaker before I went over to full time gunsmith I can only agree with what you says.

There is some wonder qualitys of stainless steels that would make wonderfull guns.

But due to the difficulties to machine those steels there would probably never be a gunmaker that would use them.

There is also a great missbelif that casting produces the same or even higher quality than machined parts are.

And I must highly disagree with this as casting in my opinion is only done when the quality doenst matter very much and when cost is highly important.

I am personally never i favour of using carbon steels but the combination of the steel and heattreatment that the original luger producers used is SUPERIOR to what aimco is using in their lugers.

In one thing I must though say that I think you are wrong and that is when you say that everything produced yesterad can easaly be produced today due to our better machinery.

The big problem is that the qualified gunmaking and toolmaking trades have not maintained it's many qualified personal.

There is simply not enough people around the world today that have the skill to produce really high quality.

This is a thing that is higly proven by the fact that almost all the American gun producers quality have falled to close to unaceptable levels today.

Compere a new manufactured win 94 with one that was made 1894 or compere a S&W revolver made today with one made in the 60th.

The skill problem is highly remarkable when you try to employ people, its almost impossible to find skilled people those days. This is ofcourse due to that the pride in the trade is since long lost and that mostly young people today not should work with lathes and files but with econimics and computers.

Regards HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr

http://www.vapensmedjan.com

07-01-2001, 03:09 AM	#9
HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stainless (O NO) steel question Hi Viggo As I worked 8 years a Toolmaker before I went over to full time gunsmith I can only agree with what you says. There is some wonder qualitys of stainless steels that would make wonderfull guns. But due to the difficulties to machine those steels there would probably never be a gunmaker that would use them. There is also a great missbelif that casting produces the same or even higher quality than machined parts are. And I must highly disagree with this as casting in my opinion is only done when the quality doenst matter very much and when cost is highly important. I am personally never i favour of using carbon steels but the combination of the steel and heattreatment that the original luger producers used is SUPERIOR to what aimco is using in their lugers. In one thing I must though say that I think you are wrong and that is when you say that everything produced yesterad can easaly be produced today due to our better machinery. The big problem is that the qualified gunmaking and toolmaking trades have not maintained it's many qualified personal. There is simply not enough people around the world today that have the skill to produce really high quality. This is a thing that is higly proven by the fact that almost all the American gun producers quality have falled to close to unaceptable levels today. Compere a new manufactured win 94 with one that was made 1894 or compere a S&W revolver made today with one made in the 60th. The skill problem is highly remarkable when you try to employ people, its almost impossible to find skilled people those days. This is ofcourse due to that the pride in the trade is since long lost and that mostly young people today not should work with lathes and files but with econimics and computers. Regards HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr http://www.vapensmedjan.com