1914/1920 Luger marked S.L. Pol. 1892 on grip strap

Cincylance · 03-06-2003, 09:27 PM

Hello,

First off, I'm new to the site. I spent a few hours today looking at some of the posts and galleries and made my first post inquiry yesterday. I think I'm hooked!

A little about my new-to-me Luger I bought about a week ago. It is a shooter grade non-import original finish "1914" Luger. It has "1920" right below the "1914." It is half matching. It has had the toggle assembly replaced with a WW2 42 toggle assembly. The toggle assembly is in excellent condition and is matching numbers "45," hence my reference to this pistol as a shooter. I shot it right after I bought it and it shoots fine.

Now for the part I need help with...
The grip strap is marked S.L. POL. 1892. What does this mean? POL? Is that Police or Polezei?

Any help is appreciated,
Cincylance

PS - How many barrel lengths were available for the 1914?

Edward Tinker · 03-06-2003, 09:43 PM

Cincylance, welcome to the forum!

Barrel length for war time guns were usually either just under four inches and eight inches. Four inch was the standard length and for what is commonly called the Artillery Luger it was eight inches. Its true name is Lange Luger, lange meaning long in German.

I used to have a mismatch, much as yours, the top half was one gun, the bottom another.

This is probably obvious, many still call the two sets of numbers, double dates, the thinking was that they were reworked on two occasions. Actually the 1914 is the date of manufacture and the 1920 is a property acceptance stamp by the Reichswehr, this was to try and prevent the weapon from turning up missing, much like our US GovÃ¢??t stamps on some 45 ACP 1911Ã¢??s.

The S.L. POL. 1892 I will have to look up, maybe someone else will have a book handy that has this information.

Ed

Cincylance · 03-06-2003, 10:10 PM

Ed,

Thanks for the info. No, I didn't know what the "double dates" meant. It has an aluminum mag marked with a 37 inside a wierd shape on the bottom. I think that is correct, but it's locked-up in my safe so I don't have it in front of me.

I look forward to your response,
Lance

Edward Tinker · 03-06-2003, 10:45 PM

The 37 is a acceptance marking, should be some kind of a eagle like bird. On your left at tech info are pictures of things like that.

Lots of good info there (besides the guys here on the forum)

Ed

karmast · 03-09-2003, 05:46 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Cincylance:
Hello,

Now for the part I need help with...
The grip strap is marked S.L. POL. 1892. What does this mean? POL? Is that Police or Polezei?

<hr /></blockquote>Hello!

I think it is a police marking of the time of the Weimar Republic, the first German democracy.
The S.L. stamp is in my opinion a stamp for the "Schutzpolizei LÃ?Â¼neburg", the police units of LÃ?Â¼neburg, a town in Germany. The POL stamp could be also stand for the police "Polizei".
The 1892 is the weapon number.
The 1920 stamp is a property mark, as Edward Tinker wrote.
I hope I had helped..

Cincylance · 03-11-2003, 10:24 AM

karmast,

Thanks for the response! This is great information to have. Sight unseen, what do you guys think this "shooter" is worth? I paid $350 for it. Was that too much?

Cincylance

John Sabato · 03-11-2003, 11:19 AM

That is a rock bottom price for a Luger these days, even with mismatched parts...

Good Job! You now have a first class Luger shooter for relatively very little money.

If it has a worn finish, and you want it to look like a million buck, send it to Thor (Ted Green) for a refinishing... and you will think it just came from the factory...IMHO

karmast · 05-01-2003, 12:24 PM

uuhh-ohh!! I think I made a mistake! It is not a unit marking for "Schutzpolizei LÃ?Â¼neburg", I checked my books again and now I think it says:
"SÃ?Â¤chsische Landespolizei, Waffe Nr. 1892", saxonian country police, weapon number 1892.
Sorry for that, but it is a police marking, I am sure!

iwan · 06-08-2003, 06:52 AM

Hello Karmast,

Luneburg is located in NiederSachsen (Germany)
its not completely wrong.

Iwan

Cincylance · 06-09-2003, 03:51 PM

Thanks for the reply!

Cincylance

ken d · 06-09-2003, 10:14 PM

Cindylance:
If the mag acceptance stamp appears to be 37 in a horizontal H it may be a 1934 "K" date mag and much in demand.

Regards

Ken D

Cincylance · 06-11-2003, 10:53 PM

Ken D,

It is, but I have bad news--I've since sold this Luger! Dag-nab-it!

Cincylance

ken d · 06-12-2003, 08:21 PM

Cindylance:

If you are in contact with the individual to whom you sold the Luger and can trade or buy back the mag send me an email.

Regards

Ken D

Cincylance · 06-12-2003, 11:54 PM

Ken D,

I sold the Luger at a show and have no way to contact the buyer.

Cincylance

PS - BTW, I live in Cincinnati and it's "Cincylance" and not "Cindylance."

ken d · 06-13-2003, 11:40 AM

Cincylance:

My eyesight was the first thing to go.

Regards

Ken D

03-06-2003, 09:27 PM	#1
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1914/1920 Luger marked S.L. Pol. 1892 on grip strap Hello, First off, I'm new to the site. I spent a few hours today looking at some of the posts and galleries and made my first post inquiry yesterday. I think I'm hooked! A little about my new-to-me Luger I bought about a week ago. It is a shooter grade non-import original finish "1914" Luger. It has "1920" right below the "1914." It is half matching. It has had the toggle assembly replaced with a WW2 42 toggle assembly. The toggle assembly is in excellent condition and is matching numbers "45," hence my reference to this pistol as a shooter. I shot it right after I bought it and it shoots fine. Now for the part I need help with... The grip strap is marked S.L. POL. 1892. What does this mean? POL? Is that Police or Polezei? Any help is appreciated, Cincylance PS - How many barrel lengths were available for the 1914? __________________ Cincylance cincylance@fuse.net (home) lance_langdon@lpkdesign.com (work)

03-06-2003, 09:43 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Cincylance, welcome to the forum! Barrel length for war time guns were usually either just under four inches and eight inches. Four inch was the standard length and for what is commonly called the Artillery Luger it was eight inches. Its true name is Lange Luger, lange meaning long in German. I used to have a mismatch, much as yours, the top half was one gun, the bottom another. This is probably obvious, many still call the two sets of numbers, double dates, the thinking was that they were reworked on two occasions. Actually the 1914 is the date of manufacture and the 1920 is a property acceptance stamp by the Reichswehr, this was to try and prevent the weapon from turning up missing, much like our US GovÃ¢??t stamps on some 45 ACP 1911Ã¢??s. The S.L. POL. 1892 I will have to look up, maybe someone else will have a book handy that has this information. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-06-2003, 10:10 PM	#3
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, Thanks for the info. No, I didn't know what the "double dates" meant. It has an aluminum mag marked with a 37 inside a wierd shape on the bottom. I think that is correct, but it's locked-up in my safe so I don't have it in front of me. I look forward to your response, Lance __________________ Cincylance cincylance@fuse.net (home) lance_langdon@lpkdesign.com (work)

03-06-2003, 10:45 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	The 37 is a acceptance marking, should be some kind of a eagle like bird. On your left at tech info are pictures of things like that. Lots of good info there (besides the guys here on the forum) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-09-2003, 05:46 AM	#5
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Cincylance: <strong>Hello, Now for the part I need help with... The grip strap is marked S.L. POL. 1892. What does this mean? POL? Is that Police or Polezei? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hello! I think it is a police marking of the time of the Weimar Republic, the first German democracy. The S.L. stamp is in my opinion a stamp for the "Schutzpolizei LÃ?Â¼neburg", the police units of LÃ?Â¼neburg, a town in Germany. The POL stamp could be also stand for the police "Polizei". The 1892 is the weapon number. The 1920 stamp is a property mark, as Edward Tinker wrote. I hope I had helped.. __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..

03-11-2003, 10:24 AM	#6
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	karmast, Thanks for the response! This is great information to have. Sight unseen, what do you guys think this "shooter" is worth? I paid $350 for it. Was that too much? Cincylance __________________ Cincylance cincylance@fuse.net (home) lance_langdon@lpkdesign.com (work)

03-11-2003, 11:19 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	That is a rock bottom price for a Luger these days, even with mismatched parts... Good Job! You now have a first class Luger shooter for relatively very little money. If it has a worn finish, and you want it to look like a million buck, send it to Thor (Ted Green) for a refinishing... and you will think it just came from the factory...IMHO __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-01-2003, 12:24 PM	#8
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	uuhh-ohh!! I think I made a mistake! It is not a unit marking for "Schutzpolizei LÃ?Â¼neburg", I checked my books again and now I think it says: "SÃ?Â¤chsische Landespolizei, Waffe Nr. 1892", saxonian country police, weapon number 1892. Sorry for that, but it is a police marking, I am sure! __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..

06-08-2003, 06:52 AM	#9
iwan User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Karmast, Luneburg is located in NiederSachsen (Germany) its not completely wrong. Iwan

06-09-2003, 03:51 PM	#10
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the reply! Cincylance __________________ Cincylance cincylance@fuse.net (home) lance_langdon@lpkdesign.com (work)

06-09-2003, 10:14 PM	#11
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Cindylance: If the mag acceptance stamp appears to be 37 in a horizontal H it may be a 1934 "K" date mag and much in demand. Regards Ken D

06-11-2003, 10:53 PM	#12
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ken D, It is, but I have bad news--I've since sold this Luger! Dag-nab-it! Cincylance __________________ Cincylance cincylance@fuse.net (home) lance_langdon@lpkdesign.com (work)

06-12-2003, 08:21 PM	#13
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Cindylance: If you are in contact with the individual to whom you sold the Luger and can trade or buy back the mag send me an email. Regards Ken D

06-12-2003, 11:54 PM	#14
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ken D, I sold the Luger at a show and have no way to contact the buyer. Cincylance PS - BTW, I live in Cincinnati and it's "Cincylance" and not "Cindylance." __________________ Cincylance cincylance@fuse.net (home) lance_langdon@lpkdesign.com (work)

06-13-2003, 11:40 AM	#15
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Cincylance: My eyesight was the first thing to go. Regards Ken D