Navy Barrel Proof...???

John Sabato · 10-31-2003, 11:58 AM

Okay...my turn with some photographic forensics...

Disregarding the Kriegsmarine stamps ( I will let our resident Navy folks comment on their authenticity) Here are the images:

I see four different number stamp fonts used...

The numbers on the safety bar and the takedown lever seem to be from the same stamp...

The numbers on the top of the rear toggle/sight (100) are different from the number on the back of the toggle... notice the difference in the shape of the ZERO and the fact that the number "1" in the "100" has a large flat serif at it's bottom and the number "4" in the "04" has a small serif not nearly as large as that on the number "1"

The numbers stamped into the front of the frame are totally different set of stamps and the shape of the zero doesn't match any of the other zeros used on the gun...

Lastly, the fact that the sear bar is of a post 1916 type that has been relieved to allow opening the toggle with the safety on seems out of place on this gun.

I think this is a GREAT looking gun, but I agree with the opinion that this was a Commercial Luger that has had a Navy rear toggle/sight installed and has been "matched" by the assembler rather than the manufacturer... and is worth about $1500 as a great Navy look-a-like shooter.

FWIW, that is my

10-31-2003, 11:58 AM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Okay...my turn with some photographic forensics... Disregarding the Kriegsmarine stamps ( I will let our resident Navy folks comment on their authenticity) Here are the images: I see four different number stamp fonts used... The numbers on the safety bar and the takedown lever seem to be from the same stamp... The numbers on the top of the rear toggle/sight (100) are different from the number on the back of the toggle... notice the difference in the shape of the ZERO and the fact that the number "1" in the "100" has a large flat serif at it's bottom and the number "4" in the "04" has a small serif not nearly as large as that on the number "1" The numbers stamped into the front of the frame are totally different set of stamps and the shape of the zero doesn't match any of the other zeros used on the gun... Lastly, the fact that the sear bar is of a post 1916 type that has been relieved to allow opening the toggle with the safety on seems out of place on this gun. I think this is a GREAT looking gun, but I agree with the opinion that this was a Commercial Luger that has had a Navy rear toggle/sight installed and has been "matched" by the assembler rather than the manufacturer... and is worth about $1500 as a great Navy look-a-like shooter. FWIW, that is my __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*