Very Bad News

MauserLugers · 07-02-2003, 12:46 PM

In my opinion, the only way you are going to have a photo gallery displaying these fakes is to buy about 20 of the faked navy Lugers and then photo display what is different and wrong about them.

As far as these toggles go that are being offered for sale at this time, I think you could look at many different original toggles and find slightly different cuts, grinds, and polish marks, so unless there is a very distinct flaw I'm not sure that just a photo of these toggles will really tell one anything. I looked at 3 of my Navy Lugers and compared them to the toggles for sale and I didn't notice anything really significant. My 3 Navy toggles are all slightly different as to the cuts, grinds and polish marks. They are not exactly the same in my opinion.

I think the only way you are going to get anything worthwhile is to buy the fake navy and then photo how it was assembled. Each will be slightly different as to fit and what is needed to assemble it. That is the flaw that was in the older fakes. Not only are there things to look for on the toggle assembly, but the barrel and proofs also. So, to do this right I think you have to examine the whole Luger and the toggle alone does not tell us much worthwhile. -- Bill

07-02-2003, 12:46 PM	#12
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	In my opinion, the only way you are going to have a photo gallery displaying these fakes is to buy about 20 of the faked navy Lugers and then photo display what is different and wrong about them. As far as these toggles go that are being offered for sale at this time, I think you could look at many different original toggles and find slightly different cuts, grinds, and polish marks, so unless there is a very distinct flaw I'm not sure that just a photo of these toggles will really tell one anything. I looked at 3 of my Navy Lugers and compared them to the toggles for sale and I didn't notice anything really significant. My 3 Navy toggles are all slightly different as to the cuts, grinds and polish marks. They are not exactly the same in my opinion. I think the only way you are going to get anything worthwhile is to buy the fake navy and then photo how it was assembled. Each will be slightly different as to fit and what is needed to assemble it. That is the flaw that was in the older fakes. Not only are there things to look for on the toggle assembly, but the barrel and proofs also. So, to do this right I think you have to examine the whole Luger and the toggle alone does not tell us much worthwhile. -- Bill