Simson questions

PANZERSOLDAT · 08-04-2003, 03:46 PM

I have had this Simson in my collection for awhile and the grip screws,which are eagle 6 proofed, have always worried me because they have a much brighter (fire blued?) finish than the blueing on the pistol. The pistol is all matching including magazine SN 270x, and is blank chamber marked. Spare mag is not matching and is eagle 46 stamped. Right side of frame marked with large eagle 6 and small eagle 6 as well as eagle 33. There is a plethora of E6 on just about every part. Overall, a very nice example, but are the grip screws correct or refinished?

Edward Tinker · 08-04-2003, 04:15 PM

Look shiny to me, but I am far from any expert on Simson's.

On the other hand, if I had to have "replacement" items on a Simson, I would rather it was screws than a firing pin, extractor, breechblock etc.

Ed

Herb · 08-04-2003, 05:41 PM

From your pictures the grip screws appear to be 'fire blued' which is correct for that model if my memory serves me correctly. That is a really nice looking Simson. Unfortunately, mine has been refinshed so I can't give any info based upon it other than just about everything on it has the little eagle 6 stamps too.

MauserLugers · 08-04-2003, 09:17 PM

Grip screws are awfully bright and awfully blue for a Simson. Use your own imagination!

kidvett · 08-05-2003, 02:00 AM

A very nice Simson indeed!

Way above average Simsons encountered! The small Eagles you refer to on the right side of the receiver are correct numbers for a Simson as is the Eagle 46 spare mag. Simson used a variety of numbers with the Eagle proofmark and stamped almost every part just like Erfurt did. They were the follow up to Erfurt Lugers...

Congrats <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> on this beautifull pistol!

kidvett

Lugerdoc · 08-05-2003, 01:01 PM

PS, I agree that the fire blue finish is correct for these grip screw, but these look too good. Perhaps someone has "refreshed" the straw and fireblued parts. I too have a couple of E/46 marked Simson mags. According to Costanzo, this inspection mark was only used in 1934 at the very end of Simson production. TH

08-04-2003, 03:46 PM	#1
PANZERSOLDAT User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: CLARKSVILLE, TN Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Simson questions I have had this Simson in my collection for awhile and the grip screws,which are eagle 6 proofed, have always worried me because they have a much brighter (fire blued?) finish than the blueing on the pistol. The pistol is all matching including magazine SN 270x, and is blank chamber marked. Spare mag is not matching and is eagle 46 stamped. Right side of frame marked with large eagle 6 and small eagle 6 as well as eagle 33. There is a plethora of E6 on just about every part. Overall, a very nice example, but are the grip screws correct or refinished?

08-04-2003, 04:15 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Look shiny to me, but I am far from any expert on Simson's. On the other hand, if I had to have "replacement" items on a Simson, I would rather it was screws than a firing pin, extractor, breechblock etc. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-04-2003, 05:41 PM	#3
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	From your pictures the grip screws appear to be 'fire blued' which is correct for that model if my memory serves me correctly. That is a really nice looking Simson. Unfortunately, mine has been refinshed so I can't give any info based upon it other than just about everything on it has the little eagle 6 stamps too. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

08-05-2003, 01:01 PM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	PS, I agree that the fire blue finish is correct for these grip screw, but these look too good. Perhaps someone has "refreshed" the straw and fireblued parts. I too have a couple of E/46 marked Simson mags. According to Costanzo, this inspection mark was only used in 1934 at the very end of Simson production. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-04-2003, 09:17 PM	#4
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Grip screws are awfully bright and awfully blue for a Simson. Use your own imagination!

08-05-2003, 02:00 AM	#5
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	A very nice Simson indeed! Way above average Simsons encountered! The small Eagles you refer to on the right side of the receiver are correct numbers for a Simson as is the Eagle 46 spare mag. Simson used a variety of numbers with the Eagle proofmark and stamped almost every part just like Erfurt did. They were the follow up to Erfurt Lugers... Congrats <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> on this beautifull pistol! kidvett