Got it from grandpa...

dan · 11-01-2002, 11:21 PM

What do I have... inherited this luger and know very little about it. new at this uploading business!!!

any info appreciated!

Thanks,

Dan

Lugerdoc · 11-02-2002, 08:44 AM

Judging from the photo, it appears to be shooter grade, what ever variation it is.

Edward Tinker · 11-02-2002, 10:17 AM

Dan, we need a lot more information to help you.

Can you tell us any markings on the gun?

Proofs? (see on your left under tech information if you came through www.lugerforum.com) Tell us what and where proofs and markings are located.

There are forms in this section, where you can print out and then write down pertinent information.

What serial number is on the gun? To include any letters next to or under the serial number?

What year or letters are stamped on the top of the receiver?

What initials or letters are on the toggle?

Can you provide better pictures, to include side, top, etc?

dan · 11-06-2002, 11:27 PM

dan · 11-06-2002, 11:42 PM

Doubs · 11-06-2002, 11:45 PM

Dan, the poor quality of the pictures of the full gun make it impossible to tell anything about it. The close-up of the inspection stamps and arsenal eagle make it appear to be an Imperial (1918 or before) Luger made by Erfurt. The forward toggle should have the word "ERFURT" surmounted by a crown.

The stamp of a crown over the letters "RC" indicate that some part of the pistol failed to meet specifications but a "Revisions Commission" found the part to operate correctly and passed it for use. That absolved the normal arsenal inspectors from blame if the part later failed.

If you would provide more detail about the pistol's markings and stamps, we could tell you more. Otherwise, we've gone as far as we can with the limited information you've provided through your pictures.

Doubs · 11-07-2002, 12:05 AM

Dan, more pictures have appeared and it's definitely an Erfurt pistol. Only Erfurt stamped inspection marks on the front of the trigger guard. I also think I see another C/RC above the inspection stamp on the trigger guard.

The unit markings on the grip strap read "7./J.R.12.5." and MOST LIKELY indicate 7th Infantry Regiment, Company 12, weapon number 5.

In German it would be "Infanterie-Regiment 7, Kompagnie 12, Waffen Nr. 5".

I say most likely because there's the possibility that it could have been a Jaeger regiment and the slash behind the "7" may indicate something I'm unaware of. The translation I've given is the most probable IMO.

Finally, I'm going to guess that the year the pistol is dated is 1914 or before.

dan · 11-08-2002, 10:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Doubs:
<strong>Dan, more pictures have appeared and it's definitely an Erfurt pistol. Only Erfurt stamped inspection marks on the front of the trigger guard. I also think I see another C/RC above the inspection stamp on the trigger guard.

The unit markings on the grip strap read "7./J.R.12.5." and MOST LIKELY indicate 7th Infantry Regiment, Company 12, weapon number 5.

In German it would be "Infanterie-Regiment 7, Kompagnie 12, Waffen Nr. 5".

I say most likely because there's the possibility that it could have been a Jaeger regiment and the slash behind the "7" may indicate something I'm unaware of. The translation I've given is the most probable IMO.

Finally, I'm going to guess that the year the pistol is dated is 1914 or before.</strong><hr></blockquote>

dan · 11-08-2002, 11:05 PM

been busy... sorry for the lack of info...

here goes; it is a double dated 1917 - 1920 erfurt; came with holster magazine and tool; serial # 158 all numbers match except mag(no markings) and holster(marked /jr10.11)

thank you for your replies,

Dan

dan · 11-08-2002, 11:20 PM

EBT edit for width

Doubs · 11-09-2002, 12:14 AM

Dan, the double date indicates use by the Weimar Republic military and the "1920" stamp is actually a property mark that designates Weimar Republic ownership.

I started to mention last night that the slash might mean a post-WW1 unit marking. It seems a common feature of Weimar unit markings. The translation of the markings would, however, likely be the same.

The holster markings are infantry but I'm not certain exactly what they translate to and I don't want to mislead you.

That's a nice rig you have if it's all in good condition.

11-01-2002, 11:21 PM	#1
dan User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Got it from grandpa... What do I have... inherited this luger and know very little about it. new at this uploading business!!! any info appreciated! Thanks, Dan

11-02-2002, 08:44 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Judging from the photo, it appears to be shooter grade, what ever variation it is. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-02-2002, 10:17 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Dan, we need a lot more information to help you. Can you tell us any markings on the gun? Proofs? (see on your left under tech information if you came through www.lugerforum.com) Tell us what and where proofs and markings are located. There are forms in this section, where you can print out and then write down pertinent information. What serial number is on the gun? To include any letters next to or under the serial number? What year or letters are stamped on the top of the receiver? What initials or letters are on the toggle? Can you provide better pictures, to include side, top, etc? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-06-2002, 11:27 PM	#4
dan User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

11-06-2002, 11:42 PM	#5
dan User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

11-06-2002, 11:45 PM	#6
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 819 Thanked 1,769 Times in 586 Posts	Dan, the poor quality of the pictures of the full gun make it impossible to tell anything about it. The close-up of the inspection stamps and arsenal eagle make it appear to be an Imperial (1918 or before) Luger made by Erfurt. The forward toggle should have the word "ERFURT" surmounted by a crown. The stamp of a crown over the letters "RC" indicate that some part of the pistol failed to meet specifications but a "Revisions Commission" found the part to operate correctly and passed it for use. That absolved the normal arsenal inspectors from blame if the part later failed. If you would provide more detail about the pistol's markings and stamps, we could tell you more. Otherwise, we've gone as far as we can with the limited information you've provided through your pictures.

11-07-2002, 12:05 AM	#7
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 819 Thanked 1,769 Times in 586 Posts	Dan, more pictures have appeared and it's definitely an Erfurt pistol. Only Erfurt stamped inspection marks on the front of the trigger guard. I also think I see another C/RC above the inspection stamp on the trigger guard. The unit markings on the grip strap read "7./J.R.12.5." and MOST LIKELY indicate 7th Infantry Regiment, Company 12, weapon number 5. In German it would be "Infanterie-Regiment 7, Kompagnie 12, Waffen Nr. 5". I say most likely because there's the possibility that it could have been a Jaeger regiment and the slash behind the "7" may indicate something I'm unaware of. The translation I've given is the most probable IMO. Finally, I'm going to guess that the year the pistol is dated is 1914 or before.

11-08-2002, 10:58 PM	#8
dan User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Doubs: <strong>Dan, more pictures have appeared and it's definitely an Erfurt pistol. Only Erfurt stamped inspection marks on the front of the trigger guard. I also think I see another C/RC above the inspection stamp on the trigger guard. The unit markings on the grip strap read "7./J.R.12.5." and MOST LIKELY indicate 7th Infantry Regiment, Company 12, weapon number 5. In German it would be "Infanterie-Regiment 7, Kompagnie 12, Waffen Nr. 5". I say most likely because there's the possibility that it could have been a Jaeger regiment and the slash behind the "7" may indicate something I'm unaware of. The translation I've given is the most probable IMO. Finally, I'm going to guess that the year the pistol is dated is 1914 or before.</strong><hr></blockquote>

11-08-2002, 11:05 PM	#9
dan User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	been busy... sorry for the lack of info... here goes; it is a double dated 1917 - 1920 erfurt; came with holster magazine and tool; serial # 158 all numbers match except mag(no markings) and holster(marked /jr10.11) thank you for your replies, Dan

11-08-2002, 11:20 PM	#10
dan User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	EBT edit for width

11-09-2002, 12:14 AM	#11
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 819 Thanked 1,769 Times in 586 Posts	Dan, the double date indicates use by the Weimar Republic military and the "1920" stamp is actually a property mark that designates Weimar Republic ownership. I started to mention last night that the slash might mean a post-WW1 unit marking. It seems a common feature of Weimar unit markings. The translation of the markings would, however, likely be the same. The holster markings are infantry but I'm not certain exactly what they translate to and I don't want to mislead you. That's a nice rig you have if it's all in good condition.