Maybe Time For A Poll...

Dwight Gruber · 07-10-2003, 10:11 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jamese:
I see nothing morality wrong with replacing a correct numbered broken firing pin, hold open etc…on a matching gun in order to maintain it’s matching status. However I do believe like Big Norm and others, that is out right fraud to alter parts in order to achieve that status.

Many people change the main spring on a matching gun in order enhance its reliability, ask yourself does that gun no longer have “All Matching ” status ? would it be a fraud to sell the gun as all matching ?
<hr /></blockquote>Jim,

I was going to stay out of this discussion, but I find that I must take issue with your conclusions.

I have nothing to say about the morality of the circumstance. It is a simple, objective fact that a Luger with force-matched parts is no longer a matching gun. It does not have the parts it originally came with, and it will never again be authentically complete. Such replacement is in itself an alteration.

Willfully changing a part such as the recoil spring may not literally change its "all matching" status (definable and verifiable by the existence of serial numbers), but it certainly reduces the pistol's authenticity. And yes, depending on the circumstances of the sale, misrepresenting such a Luger as completely authentic could be construed as fraud.

--Dwight

07-10-2003, 10:11 AM	#32
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by jamese: <strong>I see nothing morality wrong with replacing a correct numbered broken firing pin, hold open etc…on a matching gun in order to maintain it’s matching status. However I do believe like Big Norm and others, that is out right fraud to alter parts in order to achieve that status. Many people change the main spring on a matching gun in order enhance its reliability, ask yourself does that gun no longer have “All Matching ” status ? would it be a fraud to sell the gun as all matching ? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Jim, I was going to stay out of this discussion, but I find that I must take issue with your conclusions. I have nothing to say about the morality of the circumstance. It is a simple, objective fact that a Luger with force-matched parts is no longer a matching gun. It does not have the parts it originally came with, and it will never again be authentically complete. Such replacement is in itself an alteration. Willfully changing a part such as the recoil spring may not literally change its "all matching" status (definable and verifiable by the existence of serial numbers), but it certainly reduces the pistol's authenticity. And yes, depending on the circumstances of the sale, misrepresenting such a Luger as completely authentic could be construed as fraud. --Dwight