Movie sightings, it wasn't a Luger, but...

unspellable · 01-28-2004, 05:15 PM

It wasn't a Luger but I had to post this any way. Was watching a movie in which the period was the Kansas "war" just before the outbreak of the Civil War. All the shooting was being done with SAA Colts and Winchester lever actions. What a hoot!

Roadkill · 01-28-2004, 08:07 PM

Got me thinking, Unspellable. Without intending to hijack your subject, what is the worst example of period incorrectness you have ever seen of a firearm in a movie? Mine was a Civil War line up and the soldiers were marching in the twilight after a battle with their rifles slung over their shoulders in various manners. There was clearly defined Arisaka on one. Another was a Japanese soldier shooting Americam POWs with a P38.

rk

unspellable · 01-28-2004, 09:57 PM

In The Rocketeer we see the heavie's troops (Nazi paramilitary types, not real military, takes place in the US.) packing P38's circa 1934 or 1936.

In the Movie about Rourke's Drift in the Zulu wars the good guys are packing the Webley MkVI.

But I think the pre-Civil War SAA's and lever guns are the most outrageous I've seen.

On the correct side of the ledger I saw a guy in a late period Western with a new fangled Mannlicher pistol. It was something of a curiosity.

I've heard it said that it's traditional for the genteel officer class heavy to have a Luger while the creepy heavy has a Broomhandle.

unspellable · 01-29-2004, 06:47 PM

Just got to thinking. It's not firearms, but the most wildly anchronistic hardware I've seen are all those King Authur and the Round Table epics where the boys are running around in boiler plate suits. Full body hard shell armour did not become stylish until around 900 years after King Aurthur's time.

policeluger · 01-29-2004, 06:56 PM

Would it be completly incorrect for WW2 period Japanese to use, or have access to, German small arms?

Johnny C. Kitchens · 01-29-2004, 09:10 PM

How about Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc? 1936 and the Germans are armed with P-38s...

G.W. Gill · 01-30-2004, 01:25 AM

Muzzle loading longarms and single action handguns only evoke fear from the participants. Not from .... If we had to face them.... I feel for the modern movie spectator that doesn't understand. If it doesn't bang fast enough it's no good. The producer does'nt care. On the Combat (1960's) show the German K98 bolt action shoots multiple shots without touching the the bolt. How did they do that? Vic Morrow say it ain't so... Sarge...arggg......

unspellable · 01-30-2004, 08:34 AM

Johnny, They got the P38's off the guys in The Rocketeer.

Edward Tinker · 01-30-2004, 09:30 AM

I bought one of those DVD's of old western movies and it was right after the civil war, since the SSA was the 1873 model, it is hard for me to see how it was used in the 1860's... Hollyweird, they have trouble with reality.

Ed

01-28-2004, 05:15 PM	#1
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Movie sightings, it wasn't a Luger, but... It wasn't a Luger but I had to post this any way. Was watching a movie in which the period was the Kansas "war" just before the outbreak of the Civil War. All the shooting was being done with SAA Colts and Winchester lever actions. What a hoot!

01-29-2004, 09:10 PM	#6
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	How about Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc? 1936 and the Germans are armed with P-38s... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

01-30-2004, 09:30 AM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	I bought one of those DVD's of old western movies and it was right after the civil war, since the SSA was the 1873 model, it is hard for me to see how it was used in the 1860's... Hollyweird, they have trouble with reality. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-28-2004, 08:07 PM	#2
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,634 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Got me thinking, Unspellable. Without intending to hijack your subject, what is the worst example of period incorrectness you have ever seen of a firearm in a movie? Mine was a Civil War line up and the soldiers were marching in the twilight after a battle with their rifles slung over their shoulders in various manners. There was clearly defined Arisaka on one. Another was a Japanese soldier shooting Americam POWs with a P38. rk

01-28-2004, 09:57 PM	#3
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	In The Rocketeer we see the heavie's troops (Nazi paramilitary types, not real military, takes place in the US.) packing P38's circa 1934 or 1936. In the Movie about Rourke's Drift in the Zulu wars the good guys are packing the Webley MkVI. But I think the pre-Civil War SAA's and lever guns are the most outrageous I've seen. On the correct side of the ledger I saw a guy in a late period Western with a new fangled Mannlicher pistol. It was something of a curiosity. I've heard it said that it's traditional for the genteel officer class heavy to have a Luger while the creepy heavy has a Broomhandle.

01-29-2004, 06:47 PM	#4
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Just got to thinking. It's not firearms, but the most wildly anchronistic hardware I've seen are all those King Authur and the Round Table epics where the boys are running around in boiler plate suits. Full body hard shell armour did not become stylish until around 900 years after King Aurthur's time.

01-29-2004, 06:56 PM	#5
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Would it be completly incorrect for WW2 period Japanese to use, or have access to, German small arms?

01-30-2004, 01:25 AM	#7
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Muzzle loading longarms and single action handguns only evoke fear from the participants. Not from .... If we had to face them.... I feel for the modern movie spectator that doesn't understand. If it doesn't bang fast enough it's no good. The producer does'nt care. On the Combat (1960's) show the German K98 bolt action shoots multiple shots without touching the the bolt. How did they do that? Vic Morrow say it ain't so... Sarge...arggg......

01-30-2004, 08:34 AM	#8
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Johnny, They got the P38's off the guys in The Rocketeer.