What do I do to sell a Luger?

MauserLugers · 01-19-2003, 08:25 PM

Hi,
I want to sell a Luger to a friend here in Montana and am not sure exactly what I need to do. I have a C&R License and my friend does not. We both live in the same state in the same county. Do I need to have a background check done on him? Or since it is a relic do I just need to have him fill out the yellow paper. Use to be that all we needed to do was get there name, address, and license number, but as you can tell I haven't sold anything for a long time. The Luger is recorded in my FFL book. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Bill

ToggleTop · 01-20-2003, 12:13 AM

Hello Bill,
Here in TN I always transfer a pistol to a non licensed individual through a licensed dealer. That takes care of my State law! This way you would take it off your book and sign it out to the FFL dealer. The FFL dealer would do the background check and transfer it to the individual. Just a suggestion.

Regards,

Mark A · 01-20-2003, 12:57 AM

Here in Colorado I get the buyer's driver's license, address. I'm also supposed to look into his/her soul for evil intent. Write it all down in my bound book.

MauserLugers · 01-20-2003, 01:28 AM

Thanks,
It use to be that all we had to do with a C&R was to get the buyers name, address, and drivers license number, but I haven't sold any guns for a long time and I'm not sure if that is still all I need to do yet. I guess I will call the batf and just ask them to be sure. I really do not want to go through another dealer to do this as it costs money and also gets more people involved in our business. Appreciate all the help. -- Bill

Edward Tinker · 01-20-2003, 02:16 AM

Bill, I think each state is different, in Washington (from what I have been told), if I want to ship, then it requires FFL or C&R in or out of state. To just sell, there is no FFL needed if no shipping. Rifles or shotguns could be sent in state without FFL or C&R.

Obviously to another C&R, such as I have, I'd send you my C&R and you'd ship.

Not much help, sorry,

Ed

Lugerdoc · 01-20-2003, 10:24 AM

Bill, Since you are licensed, you definately need to have the buyer fill out a 4473 for your records and call it into the NIX system. Depending on your state laws, a permit from his county sheriff may also be required. Tom H.

01-19-2003, 08:25 PM	#1
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	What do I do to sell a Luger? Hi, I want to sell a Luger to a friend here in Montana and am not sure exactly what I need to do. I have a C&R License and my friend does not. We both live in the same state in the same county. Do I need to have a background check done on him? Or since it is a relic do I just need to have him fill out the yellow paper. Use to be that all we needed to do was get there name, address, and license number, but as you can tell I haven't sold anything for a long time. The Luger is recorded in my FFL book. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Bill

01-20-2003, 12:13 AM	#2
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Bill, Here in TN I always transfer a pistol to a non licensed individual through a licensed dealer. That takes care of my State law! This way you would take it off your book and sign it out to the FFL dealer. The FFL dealer would do the background check and transfer it to the individual. Just a suggestion. Regards, __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

01-20-2003, 12:57 AM	#3
Mark A User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Wheat Ridge, CO Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here in Colorado I get the buyer's driver's license, address. I'm also supposed to look into his/her soul for evil intent. Write it all down in my bound book. __________________ Mark

01-20-2003, 02:16 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,941 Thanks: 2,041 Thanked 4,547 Times in 2,100 Posts	Bill, I think each state is different, in Washington (from what I have been told), if I want to ship, then it requires FFL or C&R in or out of state. To just sell, there is no FFL needed if no shipping. Rifles or shotguns could be sent in state without FFL or C&R. Obviously to another C&R, such as I have, I'd send you my C&R and you'd ship. Not much help, sorry, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-20-2003, 10:24 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Bill, Since you are licensed, you definately need to have the buyer fill out a 4473 for your records and call it into the NIX system. Depending on your state laws, a permit from his county sheriff may also be required. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-20-2003, 01:28 AM	#4
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Thanks, It use to be that all we had to do with a C&R was to get the buyers name, address, and drivers license number, but I haven't sold any guns for a long time and I'm not sure if that is still all I need to do yet. I guess I will call the batf and just ask them to be sure. I really do not want to go through another dealer to do this as it costs money and also gets more people involved in our business. Appreciate all the help. -- Bill