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MauserLugers · 09-20-2004, 01:59 PM

A few years ago when I was more active in Lugers I bid on some items that a gentleman from Alaska had listed on E-Bay. This fella had run a pawn shop in AZ right after WW2 and had basically horded all the Luger stuff he could get his hands on through the rest of the 1940's, 50's and 60's. To make a long story short, I was able to purchase a couple of holster and magazines privately from him, mainly because I mentioned that I wanted to keep those items original and they would not be messed with in any way. His items were as described and in excellent condition. He told me he had 100's of blank bottom aluminum based WW2 magazines, as well as 100's of black plastic based magazines and black plastic grips and ect., and that he had certain "customers" that he sold these items to for big money at the time, probably twice the actual value, all through the late 70's and 80's. I am sharing this with you because I have no reason to doubt this fella, and because magazines and black plastic, brown plastic grips have been switched/replaced by dealers/collectors for a long time. You can buy a book which states an estimated 2% have a certain thing on them, such a black plastic grips, but there is no way that anyone can be sure today when those were added. So ...... beware of all these out of the normal items you run across that have something unusual or rarer about them. An estimate is simply that, an estimate, and in todays market many items are made a certain way in order to get a little more $$ out of them.-- Bill

John Sabato · 09-20-2004, 03:52 PM

Bill? You are not "active" in Lugers? Haven't I been seeing your name and/or screen name on this forum for about 5 years now?

all kidding aside...Thanks for the sage advice Bill.

MauserLugers · 09-20-2004, 04:50 PM

Hi John,
Seem to have lost interest after my operation in January. Haven't picked up any Lugers in well over a year now. Last purchases were 3 complete rigs from a guy who was selling off his collection to buy PP's and PPk's. Got a nice 1908 military, 1914 DWM, and a 1916 DWM. All had nice holsters with them, tools, and 2 matching magazines.

Before those I was lucky to purchase 5 Mauser Banners from a guy who needed the money to send his kids to college as he was funding numerous students at the same time. Through word of mouth I contacted him and was able to purchase a 1938 E/K, 39 E/k, 39 E/F, 39 E/C, 40 E/C all with two matching magazines and correct police holsters/tools, except the 38. These had been in his collection since the 70's and were about pristine in condition. So, I guess I've had more than my fair share of luck. -- Bill

Edward Tinker · 09-20-2004, 07:51 PM

Got your message, maybe next time! Keep it chuggin Bill and best to you!

Sometimes getting away from the hobby for a while is the best thing to do. Just need to get you and John D to write a book, in case the salmon tackle you and eat you all up!!

<img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Ed

09-20-2004, 01:59 PM	#1
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Information A few years ago when I was more active in Lugers I bid on some items that a gentleman from Alaska had listed on E-Bay. This fella had run a pawn shop in AZ right after WW2 and had basically horded all the Luger stuff he could get his hands on through the rest of the 1940's, 50's and 60's. To make a long story short, I was able to purchase a couple of holster and magazines privately from him, mainly because I mentioned that I wanted to keep those items original and they would not be messed with in any way. His items were as described and in excellent condition. He told me he had 100's of blank bottom aluminum based WW2 magazines, as well as 100's of black plastic based magazines and black plastic grips and ect., and that he had certain "customers" that he sold these items to for big money at the time, probably twice the actual value, all through the late 70's and 80's. I am sharing this with you because I have no reason to doubt this fella, and because magazines and black plastic, brown plastic grips have been switched/replaced by dealers/collectors for a long time. You can buy a book which states an estimated 2% have a certain thing on them, such a black plastic grips, but there is no way that anyone can be sure today when those were added. So ...... beware of all these out of the normal items you run across that have something unusual or rarer about them. An estimate is simply that, an estimate, and in todays market many items are made a certain way in order to get a little more $$ out of them.-- Bill

09-20-2004, 03:52 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Bill? You are not "active" in Lugers? Haven't I been seeing your name and/or screen name on this forum for about 5 years now? all kidding aside...Thanks for the sage advice Bill. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-20-2004, 07:51 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Got your message, maybe next time! Keep it chuggin Bill and best to you! Sometimes getting away from the hobby for a while is the best thing to do. Just need to get you and John D to write a book, in case the salmon tackle you and eat you all up!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-20-2004, 04:50 PM	#3
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Hi John, Seem to have lost interest after my operation in January. Haven't picked up any Lugers in well over a year now. Last purchases were 3 complete rigs from a guy who was selling off his collection to buy PP's and PPk's. Got a nice 1908 military, 1914 DWM, and a 1916 DWM. All had nice holsters with them, tools, and 2 matching magazines. Before those I was lucky to purchase 5 Mauser Banners from a guy who needed the money to send his kids to college as he was funding numerous students at the same time. Through word of mouth I contacted him and was able to purchase a 1938 E/K, 39 E/k, 39 E/F, 39 E/C, 40 E/C all with two matching magazines and correct police holsters/tools, except the 38. These had been in his collection since the 70's and were about pristine in condition. So, I guess I've had more than my fair share of luck. -- Bill