When is enough enough?

Roadkill · 04-09-2003, 01:29 PM

Been thinking, ya'll, (I know, that's not good for me) but when do you stop shooting a Luger? When is it worn out? When is it not safe? Firing pins go with hard primers rupturing breech blocks, ejectors break, breech blocks crack, frames crack, toggle link pins break, toggles break & crack, grips split, hold opens wear out, locking nuts wear out, magazines don't feed correctly, magazine releases wear out, ect. At best these guns are 60 years old. How many items with the complexity of a Luger do we see in its intended use sixty years after the last date of manufacture?

rk

Frank · 04-09-2003, 02:08 PM

Hey RK, that's a really good question. I have two shooters, one 1917 DWM and a byf 41. I don't have any preference on the amount I shoot either. Both have worked just fine.

I guess I'll keep shooting them until I see parts breakage and hope that's a long time away.

I shoot reasonable loads, no overloads, and keep the pistols well cleaned and lubricated. I expect many more years of service!!

Roadkill · 04-09-2003, 03:38 PM

When you pay the average of $1100 for a Luger (133 guns checked last week ) should you expect to shoot it or not? By the time I get mine back from Herr Thormeister I'll have about that much in it. I won't be shooting it.

rk

AGE · 04-09-2003, 03:55 PM

RK,

My Thor gun is my best shooter. I've got almost that much in mine, but I shoot it anyway whenever I want. I don't carry it in a holster, but that's for my CCW gun, a S&W 3914 (don't shoot near like a Looger, but carries a whole bunch easier).

Edward Tinker · 04-09-2003, 05:52 PM

RK, look at it this way, your daily transportation cost a hell of a lot more than a $1,000 buckaroos? And if I'm guessing right, it has gone into the woods and banged up on trees at least once or twice... (I figure you drive an LTD or station wagon

ok, maybe a pick-em-up-truck ) So, if you are willing to mess up the paint job every now and then, you might as well pop some caps on the ole thorster?

John D. · 04-09-2003, 06:10 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Roadkill:
Been thinking, ya'll, (I know, that's not good for me) but when do you stop shooting a Luger? ...<hr /></blockquote>Hmmm - great question...?? Maybe when the warranty runs out??

Seriously - some I shoot, and some are "wall hangers". For the shooters - I usually shoot them until I sell them. If they are a "shooter", getting replacemnt parts really doesn't bother me too much - and recently, on a 1920 commercial in .30 Luger which I shoot a great deal - I sent off the grip to Hugh Clark (who did a TERRIFIC JOB) at replacing a chip that occured at the range..

Honestly - I've never shot a Luger enough to actually "wear it out" - but I hope to work towards that goal - as the gosh darned things are TERRIFIC SHOOTERS!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Thor · 04-09-2003, 06:39 PM

Here is the solution, get one hundred Lugers, fire each one of them at least once every several years, the wear and tear on each one is minimal!

(BTW, R U guys calling Mr Thor NAMES??)

Roadkill · 04-09-2003, 07:59 PM

Ed, sorry, but I've never paid more'n $800-900 for transportation. In fact, you can buy whole houses down here (manufactured, of course, 12'x60') cheaper than what they want for most of those lugers. And even less if you pay cash up front or at least most of it at the bank repo lot. Now boat motors, guns, and four wheelers are different. They cost serious money.

rk

04-09-2003, 01:29 PM	#1
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	When is enough enough? Been thinking, ya'll, (I know, that's not good for me) but when do you stop shooting a Luger? When is it worn out? When is it not safe? Firing pins go with hard primers rupturing breech blocks, ejectors break, breech blocks crack, frames crack, toggle link pins break, toggles break & crack, grips split, hold opens wear out, locking nuts wear out, magazines don't feed correctly, magazine releases wear out, ect. At best these guns are 60 years old. How many items with the complexity of a Luger do we see in its intended use sixty years after the last date of manufacture? rk

04-09-2003, 03:55 PM	#4
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	RK, My Thor gun is my best shooter. I've got almost that much in mine, but I shoot it anyway whenever I want. I don't carry it in a holster, but that's for my CCW gun, a S&W 3914 (don't shoot near like a Looger, but carries a whole bunch easier). __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

04-09-2003, 05:52 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	RK, look at it this way, your daily transportation cost a hell of a lot more than a $1,000 buckaroos? And if I'm guessing right, it has gone into the woods and banged up on trees at least once or twice... (I figure you drive an LTD or station wagon ok, maybe a pick-em-up-truck ) So, if you are willing to mess up the paint job every now and then, you might as well pop some caps on the ole thorster? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-09-2003, 06:10 PM	#6
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Roadkill: <strong>Been thinking, ya'll, (I know, that's not good for me) but when do you stop shooting a Luger? ...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hmmm - great question...?? Maybe when the warranty runs out?? Seriously - some I shoot, and some are "wall hangers". For the shooters - I usually shoot them until I sell them. If they are a "shooter", getting replacemnt parts really doesn't bother me too much - and recently, on a 1920 commercial in .30 Luger which I shoot a great deal - I sent off the grip to Hugh Clark (who did a TERRIFIC JOB) at replacing a chip that occured at the range.. Honestly - I've never shot a Luger enough to actually "wear it out" - but I hope to work towards that goal - as the gosh darned things are TERRIFIC SHOOTERS!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

04-09-2003, 06:39 PM	#7
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Here is the solution, get one hundred Lugers, fire each one of them at least once every several years, the wear and tear on each one is minimal! (BTW, R U guys calling Mr Thor NAMES??) __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-09-2003, 02:08 PM	#2
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hey RK, that's a really good question. I have two shooters, one 1917 DWM and a byf 41. I don't have any preference on the amount I shoot either. Both have worked just fine. I guess I'll keep shooting them until I see parts breakage and hope that's a long time away. I shoot reasonable loads, no overloads, and keep the pistols well cleaned and lubricated. I expect many more years of service!!

04-09-2003, 03:38 PM	#3
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	When you pay the average of $1100 for a Luger (133 guns checked last week ) should you expect to shoot it or not? By the time I get mine back from Herr Thormeister I'll have about that much in it. I won't be shooting it. rk

04-09-2003, 07:59 PM	#8
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Ed, sorry, but I've never paid more'n $800-900 for transportation. In fact, you can buy whole houses down here (manufactured, of course, 12'x60') cheaper than what they want for most of those lugers. And even less if you pay cash up front or at least most of it at the bank repo lot. Now boat motors, guns, and four wheelers are different. They cost serious money. rk