TLSS Various Restorations on a Roll

Thor · 04-15-2004, 02:09 PM

Decided to do another picture display of some of my restorations.

Click on the links below for more restorations!

http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/1916DWMA.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/1938C.JPG
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/BKA1.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/DokTDJ.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/GK1906AEA2.JPG
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/HCArty.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/JB480A2.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/JOBroomA2.jpg

Thor · 04-15-2004, 02:11 PM

http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/JSP1LtFront.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/RBKDateA3.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/TLSS_banner.jpg

Thor · 04-17-2004, 11:56 AM

I have had several inquires about the Artillery Luger that was shown on top of the excellent Jan Still red reference books. It is pretty striking and it belongs to Hugh Clark! WOW!

norm4391 · 04-17-2004, 12:26 PM

thor are the wood grips on the p=38,replacement are standard

Thor · 04-17-2004, 12:34 PM

norm4391, Those are original Walther grips as far as I know. The gun was originally in P1 configuration except with those grips on it. I believe I remember that the person that originally brought it to the US bought it in Germany with those grips on it. Nill Sells another type of wood replacement for $137.80.

norm4391 · 04-17-2004, 12:40 PM

Thor thank for info.

Dwight Gruber · 04-17-2004, 01:18 PM

Over thep ast year or so at the Portland gun show I've seen the occasional P-38 with this style wood grip, they are on new-looking guns (at least one of them LNIB) and appear to be original.

--Dwight

bigbill · 04-19-2004, 02:36 PM

Is the red book that was under the artillery luger available to purchase ??
bigbill

Edward Tinker · 04-19-2004, 02:46 PM

two books bill,

Jan Still has reprinted two of his books;

AXIS PISTOLS, THIRD REICH LUGERS, and IMPERIAL LUGERS(sold out). Jan Still's classic masterpieces are again available. Each is $59 plus $10 postage = $69 total per book. Foreign orders add an additional $10 postage per book. Available only from Jan C. Still. Send check or money order to: Jan C. Still, Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824. E-Mail at jcstill@ak.net

He is not available until the 28th.

Look under used books, look on e-bay, etc for luger books.

Do a search on this forum for what others think are the best books to buy.

Ed

Lee123 · 09-15-2004, 03:05 PM

I've seen a few commemorative/presentation firearms here and there but the artistry and skill you put into the restoration process elevates the ordinary to the level of jewelry. It's kind of hard to imagine that originally nearly all lugers came out of the factory this way. I guess thats why so many have survived for a hundred years although for some reason the artillery luger was deemed particularly evil and many were destroyed when captured or confiscated. Glad mine wasn't and served as a nickel plated paperweight or was forgotten in some old guy's sock drawer.

Nomadr · 09-15-2004, 10:15 PM

Hey Thor
Got a little excited for a second...Thought I might see ol' P.38 no. 2599
Oh well, maybe next time.
Bob

Thor · 10-21-2005, 10:57 PM

Another look at some of my restorations. Check out the picture links at the beginning of this thread. I would have made them all thumbnail pics, but it has been so long since I posted thumbs I have forgot how to format them.Thor

Pete Ebbink · 10-22-2005, 12:54 PM

Hi Ted,

Can you let the members know what turnaround time can be expected for one of your typical beautiful restorations ?

Thor · 10-22-2005, 01:42 PM

Averages 6 months at present. If there is extensive engraving, welding it can add a bunch of time. On spot repairs, I try to do those within a month. I have a day set aside for that work. I finished a 1900 AE yesterday and I am finishing a Baby Luger today and probably will post some pictures of it due to the unique grips it has and the fact I havent been too active because I have been so busy. I also will probably finish a rare Broomhandle today for one of our forum members. The average Luger takes me about 25 hours if there is no really bad places on it. I am pretty fussy so if I blue a gun and I am not happy I redo it, so it takes more time.

southriv · 10-22-2005, 07:18 PM

Ted,

I am floored by the quality of the work. I would be very happy to have any of these instead of an orginal.

Bob

Thor · 10-23-2005, 12:51 AM

Here is the Baby I finished today for Lonny Everman. Cool grips too!
This one was made by HUB (Neil Keller of Kustom Ballistics) in 30 Luger.
I am going to adjust for Fiocchi ammo which is a little underpower. I lapped the action to remove a lot of internal friction so it will close with a spring weakened to work with the Fiocchi ammo. I didnt have a small mag for the photo so it is "sans magazine" I really like the grips.

sidhartha · 10-23-2005, 03:09 PM

I just seen the picture and it looks great! The grips were made from scratch by Bill Austin in Indiana. Here is his web site:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res07i4j/index.html

Snafu63092 · 11-14-2005, 02:44 AM

Thor any pics of my 1911? I'm dying to see it. Bob

Thor · 11-14-2005, 05:07 PM

I am almost up to your gun! I have five weapons I have finished but not shipped yet. A rather remarkable 1937 that is not just gorgeous but previously was a pitted mess. And also there is Malcolm Pipes First variation K date, to die for!!! It was a bit of a mess too, but heck, it is a first variaton K Date Luger. Also a very late cyq that had a phosphate finish on the frame much like a dual tone P.38!! I have been very busy and also finished a nice 1906 American Eagle for our friend Ron Wood and Lonny Evermans Baby Luger in 30 Luger! And also had another AE that I matched the top to the original frame bluing. My DWM Rust bluing is really matching the original and I am very pleased. I worked hard 5 years to find the match and now have it solid. Thanks for everyones patience. Quality takes time! Thor

Ron Wood · 11-14-2005, 05:50 PM

I will vouch for Ted's DWM blue color. I held the 1906 re-work next to a mint original 1906 in the bright sunlight and the color match was virtually identical. He has the color nailed.

04-15-2004, 02:09 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	TLSS Various Restorations on a Roll Decided to do another picture display of some of my restorations. Click on the links below for more restorations! http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/1916DWMA.jpg http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/1938C.JPG http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/BKA1.jpg http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/DokTDJ.jpg http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/GK1906AEA2.JPG http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/HCArty.jpg http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/JB480A2.jpg http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/JOBroomA2.jpg __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-15-2004, 02:11 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/JSP1LtFront.jpg http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/RBKDateA3.jpg http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/TLSS_banner.jpg __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-17-2004, 11:56 AM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	I have had several inquires about the Artillery Luger that was shown on top of the excellent Jan Still red reference books. It is pretty striking and it belongs to Hugh Clark! WOW! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-17-2004, 12:26 PM	#4
norm4391 User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: st.charles mo. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thor are the wood grips on the p=38,replacement are standard __________________ old rascal from Mo.

04-17-2004, 12:34 PM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	norm4391, Those are original Walther grips as far as I know. The gun was originally in P1 configuration except with those grips on it. I believe I remember that the person that originally brought it to the US bought it in Germany with those grips on it. Nill Sells another type of wood replacement for $137.80. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-17-2004, 12:40 PM	#6
norm4391 User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: st.charles mo. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thor thank for info. __________________ old rascal from Mo.

04-17-2004, 01:18 PM	#7
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,316 Times in 430 Posts	Over thep ast year or so at the Portland gun show I've seen the occasional P-38 with this style wood grip, they are on new-looking guns (at least one of them LNIB) and appear to be original. --Dwight

04-19-2004, 02:36 PM	#8
bigbill User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: kitchener,ontario, canada Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is the red book that was under the artillery luger available to purchase ?? bigbill

04-19-2004, 02:46 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	two books bill, Jan Still has reprinted two of his books; AXIS PISTOLS, THIRD REICH LUGERS, and IMPERIAL LUGERS(sold out). Jan Still's classic masterpieces are again available. Each is $59 plus $10 postage = $69 total per book. Foreign orders add an additional $10 postage per book. Available only from Jan C. Still. Send check or money order to: Jan C. Still, Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824. E-Mail at jcstill@ak.net He is not available until the 28th. Look under used books, look on e-bay, etc for luger books. Do a search on this forum for what others think are the best books to buy. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-15-2004, 03:05 PM	#10
Lee123 User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've seen a few commemorative/presentation firearms here and there but the artistry and skill you put into the restoration process elevates the ordinary to the level of jewelry. It's kind of hard to imagine that originally nearly all lugers came out of the factory this way. I guess thats why so many have survived for a hundred years although for some reason the artillery luger was deemed particularly evil and many were destroyed when captured or confiscated. Glad mine wasn't and served as a nickel plated paperweight or was forgotten in some old guy's sock drawer.

09-15-2004, 10:15 PM	#11
Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	Hey Thor Got a little excited for a second...Thought I might see ol' P.38 no. 2599 Oh well, maybe next time. Bob

10-21-2005, 10:57 PM	#12
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Another look at some of my restorations. Check out the picture links at the beginning of this thread. I would have made them all thumbnail pics, but it has been so long since I posted thumbs I have forgot how to format them.Thor __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

10-22-2005, 12:54 PM	#13
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Ted, Can you let the members know what turnaround time can be expected for one of your typical beautiful restorations ?

10-22-2005, 01:42 PM	#14
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Averages 6 months at present. If there is extensive engraving, welding it can add a bunch of time. On spot repairs, I try to do those within a month. I have a day set aside for that work. I finished a 1900 AE yesterday and I am finishing a Baby Luger today and probably will post some pictures of it due to the unique grips it has and the fact I havent been too active because I have been so busy. I also will probably finish a rare Broomhandle today for one of our forum members. The average Luger takes me about 25 hours if there is no really bad places on it. I am pretty fussy so if I blue a gun and I am not happy I redo it, so it takes more time. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

10-22-2005, 07:18 PM	#15
southriv User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Countryside New England Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ted, I am floored by the quality of the work. I would be very happy to have any of these instead of an orginal. Bob

10-23-2005, 12:51 AM	#16
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Here is the Baby I finished today for Lonny Everman. Cool grips too! This one was made by HUB (Neil Keller of Kustom Ballistics) in 30 Luger. I am going to adjust for Fiocchi ammo which is a little underpower. I lapped the action to remove a lot of internal friction so it will close with a spring weakened to work with the Fiocchi ammo. I didnt have a small mag for the photo so it is "sans magazine" I really like the grips. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

10-23-2005, 03:09 PM	#17
sidhartha User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 52 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great work! I just seen the picture and it looks great! The grips were made from scratch by Bill Austin in Indiana. Here is his web site: http://mysite.verizon.net/res07i4j/index.html __________________ "A little lemon and seltzer will remove ink stains after you've been fingerprinted. " -Martha Stewart

11-14-2005, 02:44 AM	#18
Snafu63092 User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thor any pics of my 1911? I'm dying to see it. Bob

11-14-2005, 05:07 PM	#19
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	I am almost up to your gun! I have five weapons I have finished but not shipped yet. A rather remarkable 1937 that is not just gorgeous but previously was a pitted mess. And also there is Malcolm Pipes First variation K date, to die for!!! It was a bit of a mess too, but heck, it is a first variaton K Date Luger. Also a very late cyq that had a phosphate finish on the frame much like a dual tone P.38!! I have been very busy and also finished a nice 1906 American Eagle for our friend Ron Wood and Lonny Evermans Baby Luger in 30 Luger! And also had another AE that I matched the top to the original frame bluing. My DWM Rust bluing is really matching the original and I am very pleased. I worked hard 5 years to find the match and now have it solid. Thanks for everyones patience. Quality takes time! Thor __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

11-14-2005, 05:50 PM	#20
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,174 Times in 1,701 Posts	I will vouch for Ted's DWM blue color. I held the 1906 re-work next to a mint original 1906 in the bright sunlight and the color match was virtually identical. He has the color nailed. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction