Erma .22 conversion kit - repro

pisto · 03-13-2003, 01:48 PM

Hello everybody,
did purchase some years ago a .22 conversion kit
in a wood box.

Regards

John Sabato · 03-13-2003, 02:43 PM

This kit has full knurled toggle knobs and does not look like most ERMA conversion kits I have seen before... Did you buy this new? and do you have the original papers or instructions that came with it?

This looks like a .22 caliber conversion that is owned by a former Lugerforum member in Germany. His name is Patrick and this is a photo of his .22 caliber target Luger from the old owner's corner pages of this website.

thanks,

pisto · 03-13-2003, 02:48 PM

Hello John, I bought it 5 years ago new in a wood box - donÃ?Â´t have the papers anymore. I think it was not more than one sheet of paper. It was around 200$ ore something.

John Sabato · 03-13-2003, 02:50 PM

Roland,

I think you responded before I posted the photos... please look again and tell me if this is the same conversion unit.

Thanks again,

pisto · 03-13-2003, 03:30 PM

John, I think so, probably there are some differences between early made kits and late ones.
i know for example that the same kit exists with chrome plated mags.

Lugerdoc · 03-14-2003, 08:57 AM

Pisto, What you have is Erma's SE2 PO8 conversion. As I recall, these started showing up in the 1980s. Sarco sold a lot of these in the US, missing a few parts, so the parts for these are scarcer here than for the 1930s-1970s SE1 kits. Tom H.

Ron Wood · 03-14-2003, 11:00 AM

If anyone has one of these Erma SE2 P08 conversions for sale (complete), I sure would be interested.

pisto · 03-16-2003, 01:32 PM

Ron, would sell it of course, but over here it is registered in my collectors licence which is meaning that it will be hard to ship out of Germany.

Ron Wood · 03-16-2003, 01:44 PM

Roland,
That is very kind of you to offer. I believe I have located another, so for now we won't have consider getting yours out of Germany.

Edward Tinker · 03-16-2003, 02:01 PM

I sent a PM to Pisto, asking how hard it is to buy items like that in Germany? (Since I will be there soon).

Ed

Ron Wood · 03-16-2003, 05:27 PM

It would seem that since this kit is not capable of firing a round without being mounted in a receiver, it wouldn't be classified as a firearm. Perhaps it is subject to some restrictions as a "firearm part"?

Vlim · 03-17-2003, 11:50 AM

Hi Ron,

Over here in The Netherlands, all 'essential parts' need to be registered on a gun license. Things like toggle assemblies, frames and barrels.

I'd love to own a 22 conversion kit, though

I wonder if it's difficult to get it from Germany to The Netherlands?

pisto · 03-17-2003, 12:12 PM

Difficullt is not the right word to get it out of the country (Germany), just some paperwork with the customs I fear.
The best way (not the cheapest is to locate a dealer)

Regards

Vlim · 03-18-2003, 05:25 AM

Hi,

If you're willing to give it a go, and want to sell it, just PM me with a qoute.

Thanks,

Gerben

larry · 03-20-2003, 12:36 PM

I have a WW2 Erma kit in a wooded box that is missing the extractor. Anyone know where I could may find an extractor or have one made?
Thanks
Larry

Lugerdoc · 03-23-2003, 08:37 AM

Larry, I do have some Erma 22 Conversion parts. Please see your private email. Tom H.

03-13-2003, 01:48 PM	#1
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Erma .22 conversion kit - repro Hello everybody, did purchase some years ago a .22 conversion kit in a wood box. Regards

03-13-2003, 02:43 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	This kit has full knurled toggle knobs and does not look like most ERMA conversion kits I have seen before... Did you buy this new? and do you have the original papers or instructions that came with it? This looks like a .22 caliber conversion that is owned by a former Lugerforum member in Germany. His name is Patrick and this is a photo of his .22 caliber target Luger from the old owner's corner pages of this website. thanks, __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-13-2003, 02:50 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Roland, I think you responded before I posted the photos... please look again and tell me if this is the same conversion unit. Thanks again, __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-14-2003, 08:57 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Pisto, What you have is Erma's SE2 PO8 conversion. As I recall, these started showing up in the 1980s. Sarco sold a lot of these in the US, missing a few parts, so the parts for these are scarcer here than for the 1930s-1970s SE1 kits. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-14-2003, 11:00 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	If anyone has one of these Erma SE2 P08 conversions for sale (complete), I sure would be interested. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-13-2003, 02:48 PM	#3
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello John, I bought it 5 years ago new in a wood box - donÃ?Â´t have the papers anymore. I think it was not more than one sheet of paper. It was around 200$ ore something.

03-13-2003, 03:30 PM	#5
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John, I think so, probably there are some differences between early made kits and late ones. i know for example that the same kit exists with chrome plated mags.

03-16-2003, 01:32 PM	#8
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron, would sell it of course, but over here it is registered in my collectors licence which is meaning that it will be hard to ship out of Germany.

03-16-2003, 01:44 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Roland, That is very kind of you to offer. I believe I have located another, so for now we won't have consider getting yours out of Germany. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-16-2003, 02:01 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,063 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	I sent a PM to Pisto, asking how hard it is to buy items like that in Germany? (Since I will be there soon). Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-16-2003, 05:27 PM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	It would seem that since this kit is not capable of firing a round without being mounted in a receiver, it wouldn't be classified as a firearm. Perhaps it is subject to some restrictions as a "firearm part"? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-17-2003, 11:50 AM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi Ron, Over here in The Netherlands, all 'essential parts' need to be registered on a gun license. Things like toggle assemblies, frames and barrels. I'd love to own a 22 conversion kit, though I wonder if it's difficult to get it from Germany to The Netherlands?

03-17-2003, 12:12 PM	#13
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Difficullt is not the right word to get it out of the country (Germany), just some paperwork with the customs I fear. The best way (not the cheapest is to locate a dealer) Regards

03-18-2003, 05:25 AM	#14
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, If you're willing to give it a go, and want to sell it, just PM me with a qoute. Thanks, Gerben

03-20-2003, 12:36 PM	#15
larry User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 106 Thanks: 26 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts	I have a WW2 Erma kit in a wooded box that is missing the extractor. Anyone know where I could may find an extractor or have one made? Thanks Larry

03-23-2003, 08:37 AM	#16
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Larry, I do have some Erma 22 Conversion parts. Please see your private email. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net