Grip Question for Hugh

Brandon · 06-07-2002, 05:07 PM

Hugh,
How do you checker grips made of extremely hard wood? My uncle is attempting to make a set of Luger grips of Arizona IronWood, It's one of the hardest and heaviest woods I have seen. I figured You would know if anybody would!

Cheers <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> ,Brandon

Edward Tinker · 06-07-2002, 05:16 PM

Hugh I'm sure will reply, I know from my experience that hard woods will splinter and break and are a dickens to work on. I try to take just a little off at a time.

Now Hugh, he puts the blanks out and in the morning the little elves have done the work for him, finished off a bottle of Jack, but done the work for him, <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

Frank · 06-07-2002, 07:51 PM

Hey Ed, U ain't loaded. Do U gts one in da chambre??? Whas it like ta hav a one shot Loogar?

<img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

Brandon · 06-07-2002, 08:56 PM

Frank,
Your from Phoenix, AZ? I'll bet your at Ralph's every weekend! [img]wink.gif[/img]

Cheers <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> ,Brandon

Thor · 06-07-2002, 10:14 PM

Brandon, he is there about once a week, but the good news is Ralph gets a minimum of $1 for each "Frank" visit. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

Pete Ebbink · 06-07-2002, 10:57 PM

If I lived in Phoenix, I think I would offer to do the dusting in Ralph's luger room every week.

Imagine fondling all those lugers whenever you want ?

[img]wink.gif[/img] Wonder if Ralph and Nancy argue about who gets to do the dusting... [img]wink.gif[/img]

Frank · 06-07-2002, 11:46 PM

Ed, I only live 5 miles from Uncle Ralph. It's too expensive to see him every weekend. Besides it costs me a "drool" charge every time I go into "The Room". <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

Hugh · 06-07-2002, 11:47 PM

Brandon,

I am very familiar with Desert Ironwood. I make hunting knives, and that is one of my favorite handle materials due to its beauty of grain and durability. I have carbide checkering tools which work great and don't dull easily. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />

Dwight Gruber · 06-08-2002, 02:29 AM

I count 289 Lugers to be dusted in that pictures. Oh, and one Colt 1911.

--Dwight

Brandon · 06-08-2002, 07:44 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Hugh:
<strong>Brandon,

I am very familiar with Desert Ironwood. I make hunting knives, and that is one of my favorite handle materials due to its beauty of grain and durability. I have carbide checkering tools which work great and don't dull easily. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Where could I pick up a set of those carbide checkering tools? Brownell's Maybe [img]confused.gif[/img]
Thanks for the info! <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
Brandon

Hugh · 06-08-2002, 07:57 PM

Brownells has them at about $80 A PIECE (not a set). <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

Brandon · 06-08-2002, 07:59 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Wm. Pete Ebbink:
<strong>If I lived in Phoenix, I think I would offer to do the dusting in Ralph's luger room every week.

Imagine fondling all those lugers whenever you want ?

[img]wink.gif[/img] Wonder if Ralph and Nancy argue about who gets to do the dusting... [img]wink.gif[/img]

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Pete,
I wonder if we could move to Peoria and be custodians for Ralph's WOL? We would spend alot of time cleaning up drool! Our Drool!!!!!!!!!!!

Brandon

Edward Tinker · 06-08-2002, 08:57 PM

If I remember right, there are probably a good handful or two of those missing from the shelves there! I know I have one now on MY wall.

[img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Brandon · 06-08-2002, 10:17 PM

Hugh, Are these the tools you are talking about?

www.brownells.com/Product/productDetail.asp?ProductID=157100201&CategoryID=0

Are there any difference between those attachments? I wish to learn from the master! Long live Hugh <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" /> of Luger grips!

Brandon

Hugh · 06-09-2002, 12:25 AM

Brandon,

Yep, I guess the carbide spacing tool is the one I was thinking about when I said $80. If you are thinking about buying a set; get the 90 deg tools, not the 75 deg. If you don't already have a 20 LPI spacer, you will need that also. The minimum number of the tools you will need is the type 2 and smallest type 3

If you haven't done any checkering before, It would be better to buy the regular tool steel tools first to practice with. Luke might have a set for sell cheap! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

Brandon · 06-09-2002, 10:12 AM

So I'll need the Type 2 and the Type 3 - 3/32"? I suppose Brownell's has the spacer you were talking about? Who makes the spacer? I can't find it on the product search, maybe I just haven't typed in the right information?

Brandon

Hugh · 06-09-2002, 05:36 PM

Brandon, Apparantly they aren't carrying it anymore. You will have to get one of the Dembart or Gunline. Get a right and left spacer head and a handle. If you have not done any checkering before, I suggest that you get one of the starter kits, and read a book on checkering before you attempt it. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" />

Brandon · 06-10-2002, 10:36 AM

I'll have to pick up those tools, and yep I'm going to read-up on the art of checkering I'm also going to practice on scrap wood. My dad's business is active September through January give or take a month (He's a Ginseng dealer), and in the spring (and some of the cooler summer days) He runs his Woodmizer portable sawmill, so scrap wood is plentiful! I'm going to try some of this woodworking to pass spare time. Can't wait to get started! <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> Thanks for the help Hugh!!!

Brandon

Hugh · 06-10-2002, 05:16 PM

Brandon,

The best book on checkering is the classic; CHECKERING AND CARVING OF GUNSTOCKS by Monte Kennedy.

I would recommend that you start out practicing with the 16 or 18 LPI tools before trying the finer ones. It will be less frustating, as the finer the pattern the chances of "messing up" rise expotentially! <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" />

saxman · 06-18-2002, 09:46 PM

Great Googamooga! What a pretty bunch of pistols!

06-07-2002, 05:07 PM	#1
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grip Question for Hugh Hugh, How do you checker grips made of extremely hard wood? My uncle is attempting to make a set of Luger grips of Arizona IronWood, It's one of the hardest and heaviest woods I have seen. I figured You would know if anybody would! Cheers <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> ,Brandon

06-07-2002, 05:16 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Hugh I'm sure will reply, I know from my experience that hard woods will splinter and break and are a dickens to work on. I try to take just a little off at a time. Now Hugh, he puts the blanks out and in the morning the little elves have done the work for him, finished off a bottle of Jack, but done the work for him, <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-07-2002, 10:14 PM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Brandon, he is there about once a week, but the good news is Ralph gets a minimum of $1 for each "Frank" visit. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-07-2002, 11:47 PM	#8
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Brandon, I am very familiar with Desert Ironwood. I make hunting knives, and that is one of my favorite handle materials due to its beauty of grain and durability. I have carbide checkering tools which work great and don't dull easily. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-08-2002, 07:57 PM	#11
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Brownells has them at about $80 A PIECE (not a set). <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-07-2002, 07:51 PM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Hey Ed, U ain't loaded. Do U gts one in da chambre??? Whas it like ta hav a one shot Loogar? <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

06-07-2002, 08:56 PM	#4
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank, Your from Phoenix, AZ? I'll bet your at Ralph's every weekend! [img]wink.gif[/img] Cheers <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> ,Brandon

06-07-2002, 10:57 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	If I lived in Phoenix, I think I would offer to do the dusting in Ralph's luger room every week. Imagine fondling all those lugers whenever you want ? [img]wink.gif[/img] Wonder if Ralph and Nancy argue about who gets to do the dusting... [img]wink.gif[/img]

06-07-2002, 11:46 PM	#7
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Ed, I only live 5 miles from Uncle Ralph. It's too expensive to see him every weekend. Besides it costs me a "drool" charge every time I go into "The Room". <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

06-08-2002, 02:29 AM	#9
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	I count 289 Lugers to be dusted in that pictures. Oh, and one Colt 1911. --Dwight

06-08-2002, 07:44 PM	#10
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Hugh: <strong>Brandon, I am very familiar with Desert Ironwood. I make hunting knives, and that is one of my favorite handle materials due to its beauty of grain and durability. I have carbide checkering tools which work great and don't dull easily. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote> Where could I pick up a set of those carbide checkering tools? Brownell's Maybe [img]confused.gif[/img] Thanks for the info! <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> Brandon

06-08-2002, 07:59 PM	#12
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Wm. Pete Ebbink: <strong>If I lived in Phoenix, I think I would offer to do the dusting in Ralph's luger room every week. Imagine fondling all those lugers whenever you want ? [img]wink.gif[/img] Wonder if Ralph and Nancy argue about who gets to do the dusting... [img]wink.gif[/img] </strong><hr></blockquote> Pete, I wonder if we could move to Peoria and be custodians for Ralph's WOL? We would spend alot of time cleaning up drool! Our Drool!!!!!!!!!!! Brandon

06-08-2002, 08:57 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	If I remember right, there are probably a good handful or two of those missing from the shelves there! I know I have one now on MY wall. [img]biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-08-2002, 10:17 PM	#14
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hugh, Are these the tools you are talking about? www.brownells.com/Product/productDetail.asp?ProductID=157100201&CategoryID=0 Are there any difference between those attachments? I wish to learn from the master! Long live Hugh <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" /> of Luger grips! Brandon

06-09-2002, 12:25 AM	#15
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Brandon, Yep, I guess the carbide spacing tool is the one I was thinking about when I said $80. If you are thinking about buying a set; get the 90 deg tools, not the 75 deg. If you don't already have a 20 LPI spacer, you will need that also. The minimum number of the tools you will need is the type 2 and smallest type 3 If you haven't done any checkering before, It would be better to buy the regular tool steel tools first to practice with. Luke might have a set for sell cheap! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-09-2002, 10:12 AM	#16
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So I'll need the Type 2 and the Type 3 - 3/32"? I suppose Brownell's has the spacer you were talking about? Who makes the spacer? I can't find it on the product search, maybe I just haven't typed in the right information? Brandon

06-09-2002, 05:36 PM	#17
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Brandon, Apparantly they aren't carrying it anymore. You will have to get one of the Dembart or Gunline. Get a right and left spacer head and a handle. If you have not done any checkering before, I suggest that you get one of the starter kits, and read a book on checkering before you attempt it. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-10-2002, 10:36 AM	#18
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll have to pick up those tools, and yep I'm going to read-up on the art of checkering I'm also going to practice on scrap wood. My dad's business is active September through January give or take a month (He's a Ginseng dealer), and in the spring (and some of the cooler summer days) He runs his Woodmizer portable sawmill, so scrap wood is plentiful! I'm going to try some of this woodworking to pass spare time. Can't wait to get started! <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> Thanks for the help Hugh!!! Brandon

06-10-2002, 05:16 PM	#19
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Brandon, The best book on checkering is the classic; CHECKERING AND CARVING OF GUNSTOCKS by Monte Kennedy. I would recommend that you start out practicing with the 16 or 18 LPI tools before trying the finer ones. It will be less frustating, as the finer the pattern the chances of "messing up" rise expotentially! <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-18-2002, 09:46 PM	#20
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great Googamooga! What a pretty bunch of pistols! __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.