LP-08 Artiglieria, by Mauro Baudino

lugerholsterrepair · 05-19-2003, 12:50 PM

I just received my copy of mauro's book on the Artillery from Paris this morning. I am impressed with the extensive research Mauro has done..An excellent work and while most of it is in Italian it is subtitled in English. Well worth the money, I recommend it to anyone who is interested in expanding their knowledge of not only the LP-08 but the history behind it.

The frontspiece shows a photo of Mauro and a Luger Forum Patch..Really nicely done.

I was able to pay with Pay Pal so it was easy to convert dollars to Euro's. Many good photo's too.

Excellent work Mauro! Jerry Burney

Navy · 05-19-2003, 01:38 PM

Hi Herd Bud,
How about posting a link so I can order a copy.

Thanks
Tom A.

lugerholsterrepair · 05-19-2003, 08:00 PM

m.baudino@libero.it This is Mauro's Email address Tom. I think he can ship you one if you use Pay Pal. It converts to Euro's with no problem. Your Herd Bud, Jerry Burney

Navy · 05-19-2003, 08:32 PM

Danke Mein Kamerad!
Tom A.

Navy · 05-19-2003, 09:30 PM

Thanks Jerry, Its a done deal.

Tom A.

Gene · 05-20-2003, 01:01 PM

I'd like to second Jerry's favorable review of Mauro's book. There are many excellent historical photos of LP08's in the book, as well as other information that is not readily found elsewhere. And, it's at a bargain price!

Big Norm · 05-21-2003, 01:15 PM

I just received Mauro's Email regarding his excellent write up of the artillery Luger. I would like to take this opportunity to thank him for his generousity. Thank You Mauro.
Big Norm

Thor · 05-21-2003, 02:07 PM

Yep, me too!! Thanks Mauro! Ciao!

mauro · 05-22-2003, 05:37 PM

Thank you so much guys for your kind words. I have really appreciated.
Ciao

gunrunnerjohn · 05-28-2003, 07:01 PM

Very nice book.

I may be prejudiced, since my Artillery Luger is pictured a couple of times, but I'd like the book anyway.

BTW, Mine is the BW pictures with the '9' on the grips.

I'd love to get a copy of the order that specified the 9 be carved into the grips, since I've never been able to locate a concrete reference to it. Anyone that knows where I could obtain such a copy, please let me know.

Dwight Gruber · 05-28-2003, 09:48 PM

There was never a directive specifically to carve 9 into the grips of LP-08. There was, apparently, a War Ministry directive to mark "all long Mauser pistols [C-96 Broomhandle] cal. 9mm" with the red 9 (GÃ?Â¶rtz & Bryans, "German Small Arms Markings" p.130). Conventional speculation has it that the red-9 Luger grips area a result of misinterpreting the directive.

I haven't seen a copy of the actual Mauser directive, and don't know its date.

--Dwight

mauro · 05-30-2003, 09:42 AM

Hello John,
thank you so much for your kind word.
Please find here a scan of Kriegsministerium directive dated December, 14 1917. As you can see, the LP08 is not mentioned. Actually DWM was misleading as Deutschen Waffenfabrick Mauser and so the 9 was engraved also to the LP08.

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/red9.jpg

Ciao

gunrunnerjohn · 05-30-2003, 03:56 PM

Thanks Mauro, now all I have to do is learn to read German and I'll be all set!

Edward Tinker · 05-30-2003, 05:35 PM

Received my copy today in the mail. Wish it was in English

but the pictures and layout is very nice and it is worth every Euro!

Good Job Mauro and thanks,

Ed

Jim Keenan · 05-31-2003, 12:51 AM

Interesting. I was thinking along the lines of preventing the 7.63mm from being used in 9mm pistols, which would be ineffective, but not dangerous. I didn't really consider the reverse; as the directive says, firing 9mm in a 7.63mm pistol will result in damage to the pistol.

I also note that this applies only to the Army. IIRC, Mauser pistols were also issued to the Navy. Were any 9mm pistols used by the Navy? If so, the Navy would not be affected by (probably would not even receive) this directive and unless there was an equivalent Navy order, their 9mm pistols on hand might not have been marked. Just one more puzzle.

Jim

Hugh · 06-01-2003, 12:25 AM

Got my copy of Mauro's book a couple of days ago. Great book, now all I have to do is learn Italian so I can read more than just what's under the pics!

05-19-2003, 12:50 PM	#1
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	LP-08 Artiglieria, by Mauro Baudino I just received my copy of mauro's book on the Artillery from Paris this morning. I am impressed with the extensive research Mauro has done..An excellent work and while most of it is in Italian it is subtitled in English. Well worth the money, I recommend it to anyone who is interested in expanding their knowledge of not only the LP-08 but the history behind it. The frontspiece shows a photo of Mauro and a Luger Forum Patch..Really nicely done. I was able to pay with Pay Pal so it was easy to convert dollars to Euro's. Many good photo's too. Excellent work Mauro! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-19-2003, 08:00 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	m.baudino@libero.it This is Mauro's Email address Tom. I think he can ship you one if you use Pay Pal. It converts to Euro's with no problem. Your Herd Bud, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-21-2003, 02:07 PM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Yep, me too!! Thanks Mauro! Ciao! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

05-22-2003, 05:37 PM	#9
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Thank you so much guys for your kind words. I have really appreciated. Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

05-28-2003, 07:01 PM	#10
gunrunnerjohn New User Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very nice book. I may be prejudiced, since my Artillery Luger is pictured a couple of times, but I'd like the book anyway. BTW, Mine is the BW pictures with the '9' on the grips. I'd love to get a copy of the order that specified the 9 be carved into the grips, since I've never been able to locate a concrete reference to it. Anyone that knows where I could obtain such a copy, please let me know. __________________ I collect old pistols, got any?

05-19-2003, 01:38 PM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Herd Bud, How about posting a link so I can order a copy. Thanks Tom A.

05-19-2003, 08:32 PM	#4
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Danke Mein Kamerad! Tom A.

05-19-2003, 09:30 PM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks Jerry, Its a done deal. Tom A.

05-20-2003, 01:01 PM	#6
Gene User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'd like to second Jerry's favorable review of Mauro's book. There are many excellent historical photos of LP08's in the book, as well as other information that is not readily found elsewhere. And, it's at a bargain price!

05-21-2003, 01:15 PM	#7
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I just received Mauro's Email regarding his excellent write up of the artillery Luger. I would like to take this opportunity to thank him for his generousity. Thank You Mauro. Big Norm

05-28-2003, 09:48 PM	#11
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	There was never a directive specifically to carve 9 into the grips of LP-08. There was, apparently, a War Ministry directive to mark "all long Mauser pistols [C-96 Broomhandle] cal. 9mm" with the red 9 (GÃ?Â¶rtz & Bryans, "German Small Arms Markings" p.130). Conventional speculation has it that the red-9 Luger grips area a result of misinterpreting the directive. I haven't seen a copy of the actual Mauser directive, and don't know its date. --Dwight

05-30-2003, 09:42 AM	#12
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Hello John, thank you so much for your kind word. Please find here a scan of Kriegsministerium directive dated December, 14 1917. As you can see, the LP08 is not mentioned. Actually DWM was misleading as Deutschen Waffenfabrick Mauser and so the 9 was engraved also to the LP08. http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/red9.jpg Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

05-30-2003, 03:56 PM	#13
gunrunnerjohn New User Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Mauro, now all I have to do is learn to read German and I'll be all set! __________________ I collect old pistols, got any?

05-30-2003, 05:35 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Received my copy today in the mail. Wish it was in English but the pictures and layout is very nice and it is worth every Euro! Good Job Mauro and thanks, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-31-2003, 12:51 AM	#15
Jim Keenan User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Interesting. I was thinking along the lines of preventing the 7.63mm from being used in 9mm pistols, which would be ineffective, but not dangerous. I didn't really consider the reverse; as the directive says, firing 9mm in a 7.63mm pistol will result in damage to the pistol. I also note that this applies only to the Army. IIRC, Mauser pistols were also issued to the Navy. Were any 9mm pistols used by the Navy? If so, the Navy would not be affected by (probably would not even receive) this directive and unless there was an equivalent Navy order, their 9mm pistols on hand might not have been marked. Just one more puzzle. Jim

06-01-2003, 12:25 AM	#16
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Got my copy of Mauro's book a couple of days ago. Great book, now all I have to do is learn Italian so I can read more than just what's under the pics! __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*