'36 HK On Auction-Arms... - Page 2

John D. · 12-28-2003, 08:10 PM

Hi Bruce,

First - on "36" - Gibson notes an estimated 500. Based on the serial number ranges, there may have been fewer, rather then greater, then that estimate.

Second - the "36" is considered as a transitional HK between the Late "S" and the "1936", so you will see variations even within that variation (note grips, proper LWaA S-1 transition, etc.). To note - on my "36"s - I have both - the gauge measurement perpendiculiar to and along the bore axis. Both are correct.

Hope this helps!

brucew · 12-28-2003, 08:29 PM

John,

Thanks. Lugers are certainly a complex creature. The more I learn, the more I know what I don't know.

John D. · 12-28-2003, 08:35 PM

Hi Bruce..!

Umm - the HK's are something of a novelty - and like you - the more I do the research, the more there is to learn, on JUST this manufacturer (HK)..!

They are amazing - and any Luger is a wonderful "addiction" - but in my mind, HK's are a little "special". But - I'm quite biased....

Best to you for a wonderful New Year!!!

John

Pete Ebbink · 12-29-2003, 12:38 AM

Hello Bruce,

Not sure if you have Randall Gibson's book on HK lugers or not...if no, here is a link :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/Merchant2/...tegory_Code=BK

Until John D. comes out with his book, this is still a great HK reference...

Regards,

Pete...

John D. · 12-29-2003, 09:50 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Pete Ebbink:
Until John D. comes out with his book, this is still a great HK reference...<hr /></blockquote>

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> A book??? Naww - well, maybe...

*If* I did a book - and I'm not saying I am (and I'm not saying I'm not.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ) it would be from my research on HKs over the past 18 - 20 years, and would most likely fit as an adjunct to Mr. Gibson's excellent research, rather then a "new" volume. I think areas that might be of interest might be information from the Russian archives, serialization/production volume updates, variations within limited Krieg production dates, definition of some of the more obscure stamps/proofs, issues dealing with holsters and accessories, re-works and post-war, issues dealing with late 1944 & 1945 production, supplier issues in the late-war period, tooling issues, production variances, change-over dates, etc..?? .

Just my $0.0000001 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Edward Tinker · 12-29-2003, 10:38 PM

Well Johnnie, I'll buy your book, you can take it out of my pay each munf.

Seriously, I'll buy one, even if I think that Kriegs with that thar anchor is like navy stuff.

John D. · 12-29-2003, 11:03 PM

Tinker... You'se lissen to me... *IF* I due a bookerooo - you'd be in the "credits" - well, just for being "you" and all you've done behind the scenes on this Website and Jan's... I mean that...

And - O - I'll even 'splain to you why the Anchor isn't a Navy stuff thingy - but, I won't tell Tom why.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Big Norm · 12-31-2003, 12:33 AM

Just think, all this talk about a book by John looking at a sale of a gun and a couple of parrots. Just shows to go ya, you just never know where fame and fortune will will find a person.
Big Norm

John D. · 12-31-2003, 12:40 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Norm:
Just think, all this talk about a book by John looking at a sale of a gun and a couple of parrots.<hr /></blockquote>Hey Big Norm...

A book about Parrots??!!! I have to be honest - I hadn't thought about that - but Jen and I do have a Sun Conure, a Green Cheeked Conure and a Brown Throated Conure.. Oh - and a cat - which is scared to death of all three Conures..!!

LOL!!!

Hmmmm... OK - I'll reconsider the title of my book

Best to you Big Norm!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Edward Tinker · 12-31-2003, 11:01 AM

TITLE:

Kreigs, parrots and family, a true story of stress and excitment.

12-29-2003, 09:50 PM	#25
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Pete Ebbink: <strong>Until John D. comes out with his book, this is still a great HK reference...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> A book??? Naww - well, maybe... If I did a book - and I'm not saying I am (and I'm not saying I'm not.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ) it would be from my research on HKs over the past 18 - 20 years, and would most likely fit as an adjunct to Mr. Gibson's excellent research, rather then a "new" volume. I think areas that might be of interest might be information from the Russian archives, serialization/production volume updates, variations within limited Krieg production dates, definition of some of the more obscure stamps/proofs, issues dealing with holsters and accessories, re-works and post-war, issues dealing with late 1944 & 1945 production, supplier issues in the late-war period, tooling issues, production variances, change-over dates, etc..?? . Just my $0.0000001 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

12-29-2003, 10:38 PM	#26
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Well Johnnie, I'll buy your book, you can take it out of my pay each munf. Seriously, I'll buy one, even if I think that Kriegs with that thar anchor is like navy stuff. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-31-2003, 12:40 AM	#29
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Big Norm: <strong>Just think, all this talk about a book by John looking at a sale of a gun and a couple of parrots.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hey Big Norm... A book about Parrots??!!! I have to be honest - I hadn't thought about that - but Jen and I do have a Sun Conure, a Green Cheeked Conure and a Brown Throated Conure.. Oh - and a cat - which is scared to death of all three Conures..!! LOL!!! Hmmmm... OK - I'll reconsider the title of my book Best to you Big Norm!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

12-31-2003, 11:01 AM	#30
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	TITLE: Kreigs, parrots and family, a true story of stress and excitment. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-28-2003, 08:10 PM	#21
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Bruce, First - on "36" - Gibson notes an estimated 500. Based on the serial number ranges, there may have been fewer, rather then greater, then that estimate. Second - the "36" is considered as a transitional HK between the Late "S" and the "1936", so you will see variations even within that variation (note grips, proper LWaA S-1 transition, etc.). To note - on my "36"s - I have both - the gauge measurement perpendiculiar to and along the bore axis. Both are correct. Hope this helps!

12-28-2003, 08:29 PM	#22
brucew User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Port Townsend, WA Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John, Thanks. Lugers are certainly a complex creature. The more I learn, the more I know what I don't know.

12-28-2003, 08:35 PM	#23
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Bruce..! Umm - the HK's are something of a novelty - and like you - the more I do the research, the more there is to learn, on JUST this manufacturer (HK)..! They are amazing - and any Luger is a wonderful "addiction" - but in my mind, HK's are a little "special". But - I'm quite biased.... Best to you for a wonderful New Year!!! John

12-29-2003, 12:38 AM	#24
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Bruce, Not sure if you have Randall Gibson's book on HK lugers or not...if no, here is a link : http://www.simpsonltd.com/Merchant2/...tegory_Code=BK Until John D. comes out with his book, this is still a great HK reference... Regards, Pete...

12-29-2003, 11:03 PM	#27
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Tinker... You'se lissen to me... IF I due a bookerooo - you'd be in the "credits" - well, just for being "you" and all you've done behind the scenes on this Website and Jan's... I mean that... And - O - I'll even 'splain to you why the Anchor isn't a Navy stuff thingy - but, I won't tell Tom why.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

12-31-2003, 12:33 AM	#28
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Just think, all this talk about a book by John looking at a sale of a gun and a couple of parrots. Just shows to go ya, you just never know where fame and fortune will will find a person. Big Norm