Presentation Luger pics.

[Klaus]

Hi Doug,

it has been established several years ago already that the Papen-Luger is a fake, the documents are fake and your "notable Egbert von Papen" doesn't exist.
Why don't you guys wake up and smell the coffee,
there are a bunch of crooks, Schwindlers and Scheissmeisters out there just waiting to get their hands in your pocket.

Klaus

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> Klaus, although you might have strong opinions on this, this can appear as an attack towards others, things such as this [quote] Why don't you guys wake up and smell the coffee,
there are a bunch of crooks, Schwindlers and Scheissmeisters... <hr></blockquote> is not very acceptable and can start some flaming towards each other. It would be far better to tell us why it is a fake and some proof that it is a fake. I have never heard of this before and I am sure that others are not as knowledgeable as you are in this area and therefore might be put off by stating something without proof.
Are there magazine articles, books etc., that you can cite to the forum?

Edward Tinker
P08 Military Moderator