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cwm · 01-29-2004, 09:42 PM

Any info on this firearm?

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John Sabato · 01-29-2004, 09:53 PM

The darkness of your photos make it difficult to determine if the gun was ever restored or refinished, but for a 1910 Luger, the "strawing" of the small parts seems almost too good to be true, so maybe the small parts were restrawed...

One nice lookin' Luger!

Wish it were in my gunsafe!

Ron Wood · 01-29-2004, 11:31 PM

It is a very nice original totally correct 1910. You can even see the upset metal around the proof where the holdopen was added. A real prize. Sure wish I knew what the 108 on the grip strap was for, but outside of maybe being a rack number, I haven't a clue. You are really lucky to find such an early piece in that nearly pristine condition.

Imperial Arms · 01-30-2004, 01:47 AM

According to the (dark) images, it looks good to me and in very fine conditon. Definitely a keeper.

Well done,
Albert

Dwight Gruber · 01-30-2004, 02:29 AM

The added holdopen pin looks to be "in the white" where it protrudes through the frame to the outside, a clear indication that it has not been reblued post-installation. A truly spectacular piece!

--Dwight

saxman · 02-02-2004, 12:54 PM

Could y'all expand on the 'hold-open'? I know what it does but don't know where or how it's installed, or where on the picture to see it's pin. Thanks

John Sabato · 02-02-2004, 01:07 PM

The holdopen is inside the gun and is operated by the follower button on the magazine...

When the last shot is fired, Or if you open the gun with an empty magazine in it, the hold open is pressed up and catches a notch on the underside of the breechbolt...

The holdopen became standard on the Luger but was not on the early models... many were refitted to include the holdopen including yours.

This photo cropped from your larger photos shows where the frame was drilled and the pin inserted on which the holdopen pivots...

Here is a shot of the inside of a Luger and where the holdopen sits by the top of the magazine well...

Take the top off your Luger and insert an empty magazine slowly and when the magazine seats you will see the holdopen pressed to the "UP" position ... You can also see the notch on the underside of the bolt with the top half removed.

01-29-2004, 09:42 PM	#1
cwm User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: usa Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	more DWM pictures Any info on this firearm? <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/rtside.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/rtside.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/lftside.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/lftside.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/front_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/front_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dwmtop.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dwmtop.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

01-29-2004, 09:53 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	The darkness of your photos make it difficult to determine if the gun was ever restored or refinished, but for a 1910 Luger, the "strawing" of the small parts seems almost too good to be true, so maybe the small parts were restrawed... One nice lookin' Luger! Wish it were in my gunsafe! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-29-2004, 11:31 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	It is a very nice original totally correct 1910. You can even see the upset metal around the proof where the holdopen was added. A real prize. Sure wish I knew what the 108 on the grip strap was for, but outside of maybe being a rack number, I haven't a clue. You are really lucky to find such an early piece in that nearly pristine condition. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-02-2004, 12:54 PM	#6
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Could y'all expand on the 'hold-open'? I know what it does but don't know where or how it's installed, or where on the picture to see it's pin. Thanks __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.

02-02-2004, 01:07 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	The holdopen is inside the gun and is operated by the follower button on the magazine... When the last shot is fired, Or if you open the gun with an empty magazine in it, the hold open is pressed up and catches a notch on the underside of the breechbolt... The holdopen became standard on the Luger but was not on the early models... many were refitted to include the holdopen including yours. This photo cropped from your larger photos shows where the frame was drilled and the pin inserted on which the holdopen pivots... Here is a shot of the inside of a Luger and where the holdopen sits by the top of the magazine well... Take the top off your Luger and insert an empty magazine slowly and when the magazine seats you will see the holdopen pressed to the "UP" position ... You can also see the notch on the underside of the bolt with the top half removed. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-30-2004, 01:47 AM	#4
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	According to the (dark) images, it looks good to me and in very fine conditon. Definitely a keeper. Well done, Albert

01-30-2004, 02:29 AM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	The added holdopen pin looks to be "in the white" where it protrudes through the frame to the outside, a clear indication that it has not been reblued post-installation. A truly spectacular piece! --Dwight