1916 Erfurt Luger pricing

Mercsburgh · 02-19-2024, 08:17 PM

New to the forum, looking for value of my 1916 Erfurt.

All matching s/n including 1 of the mags.

It has a holster with take down tool, but it's a 1940 w/broken strap.

Thanks for your comments.

Karl · 02-19-2024, 08:49 PM

Mercurio,

Welcome to the forum. More and better photographs are needed. The present photos have a lot of glare. It is difficult to judge from the photos, however, it would appear that this Luger has been refinished, with the strawed parts, such as the trigger, safety, etc. blued (not original), and then perhaps someone attempted to remove the refinished blue? In addition, it looks like the barrel is a different color, suggesting that it is a replacement. These elements would seriously detract from the value of the gun. If you can, please provide better photos, including details of the front underside of frame and bottom of barrel, top of the receiver, close up of side plate area.

KFS

Mercsburgh · 02-19-2024, 11:46 PM

Karl

Thanks for your help. I have taken some more photos for you.

Mercsburgh · 02-19-2024, 11:54 PM

A couple more.

gunnertwo · 02-20-2024, 12:33 AM

Refinished, in my opinion.

G2

Doubs · 02-20-2024, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gunnertwo

Refinished, in my opinion. G2

I'm certain that it has been.

Kiwi · 02-20-2024, 09:49 AM

You did ask for pricing.
I got my 1913 on Gunbroker for $1000, it is a shooter also refinished

Yours will be worth a bit more because
1. Erfurt is rarer - but that is for collectors, not shooters
2. matching numbers, but having been refinished the provenance of the numbered parts is questionable, and of course although critical to collectors, not so much for shooters.
3. prices have risen generally since I bought

Best advice - watch Gunbroker auctions for a week or so and get a feel for the bidding

Karl · 02-20-2024, 10:03 AM

Mercurio,

The additional photos help. The barrel seems to be original. However, as others have remarked, the gun has clearly been refinished in some manner. It appears to me that it may have been dip blued over the original finish and then some of the refinish removed. In addition, the glare in the photos suggest that the whole gun, including the magazine base, may have been sprayed with clear lacquer or something similar. I positive point is that the gun does not appear to have been buffed.

I note that the take-down lever spring appears to be missing and the tip of the ejector is broken.

You asked about value: In my opinion this is not a collector-grade Luger and I would place a ballpark value, with the broken ejector and take-down lever spring replaced, at about $1000. Others may have different opinions. I would say it is potentially a nice shooter.

KFS

Mercsburgh · 02-20-2024, 06:55 PM

Gentlemen,

Thank you for reviews and comments.
Learned something good and bad.
Thats similar on the lines to what I was thinking.
Between $800-1400.

I was wondering why the small parts weren't straw color.
Good catch on the takedown spring. (Are these available)?
Is the ejector tip being broken a big deal to function or can it still be safely operated? I have shot it before and it seems to function fine
I imagine that part would be hard to find.

Thank again.

Doubs · 02-21-2024, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercsburgh

Good catch on the takedown spring. (Are these available)? Is the ejector tip being broken a big deal to function or can it still be safely operated? I have shot it before and it seems to function fine

The spring is available. Check Numrich and Sarco.

Look at the picture below. If the circled tip of the ejector is missing, the ejector should be replaced. Check the places I mentioned above. It's also possible that some of the members here may have the parts you need.

velodog455~ · 02-21-2024, 10:10 AM

Poppertsgunparts.com has them in stock for $15. The proper search term if looking elsewhere would be "Luger locking bolt spring".
-Bob

dendk · 07-09-2024, 05:49 AM

I have a 1916 nice gun

Mac Cat · 07-09-2024, 05:24 PM

Thanks for sharing your Luger here.

I love Erfurt's
They have a lot of stamps on all the small parts.
The Grip screws should be marked, but I don't think they are.

It is definately worth repairing.

Doubs · 07-09-2024, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Cat

They have a lot of stamps on all the small parts. The Grip screws should be marked, but I don't think they are

Erfurt last stamped grip screws in 1914. When they resumed production in 1916, they stopped stamping the screws.

02-20-2024, 06:55 PM	#9
Mercsburgh New User Join Date: Feb 2024 Posts: 4 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	1916 Erfurt reply Gentlemen, Thank you for reviews and comments. Learned something good and bad. Thats similar on the lines to what I was thinking. Between $800-1400. I was wondering why the small parts weren't straw color. Good catch on the takedown spring. (Are these available)? Is the ejector tip being broken a big deal to function or can it still be safely operated? I have shot it before and it seems to function fine I imagine that part would be hard to find. Thank again.

02-19-2024, 08:49 PM	#2
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 531 Thanks: 0 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	Mercurio, Welcome to the forum. More and better photographs are needed. The present photos have a lot of glare. It is difficult to judge from the photos, however, it would appear that this Luger has been refinished, with the strawed parts, such as the trigger, safety, etc. blued (not original), and then perhaps someone attempted to remove the refinished blue? In addition, it looks like the barrel is a different color, suggesting that it is a replacement. These elements would seriously detract from the value of the gun. If you can, please provide better photos, including details of the front underside of frame and bottom of barrel, top of the receiver, close up of side plate area. KFS

02-20-2024, 12:33 AM	#5
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 642 Thanks: 854 Thanked 957 Times in 373 Posts	Refinished, in my opinion. G2

02-20-2024, 09:49 AM	#7
Kiwi User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Wrong side of the Delaware river Posts: 335 Thanks: 235 Thanked 478 Times in 189 Posts	You did ask for pricing. I got my 1913 on Gunbroker for $1000, it is a shooter also refinished Yours will be worth a bit more because 1. Erfurt is rarer - but that is for collectors, not shooters 2. matching numbers, but having been refinished the provenance of the numbered parts is questionable, and of course although critical to collectors, not so much for shooters. 3. prices have risen generally since I bought Best advice - watch Gunbroker auctions for a week or so and get a feel for the bidding

02-20-2024, 10:03 AM	#8
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 531 Thanks: 0 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	Mercurio, The additional photos help. The barrel seems to be original. However, as others have remarked, the gun has clearly been refinished in some manner. It appears to me that it may have been dip blued over the original finish and then some of the refinish removed. In addition, the glare in the photos suggest that the whole gun, including the magazine base, may have been sprayed with clear lacquer or something similar. I positive point is that the gun does not appear to have been buffed. I note that the take-down lever spring appears to be missing and the tip of the ejector is broken. You asked about value: In my opinion this is not a collector-grade Luger and I would place a ballpark value, with the broken ejector and take-down lever spring replaced, at about $1000. Others may have different opinions. I would say it is potentially a nice shooter. KFS

02-21-2024, 10:10 AM	#11
velodog455~ User Join Date: Aug 2023 Posts: 100 Thanks: 28 Thanked 89 Times in 52 Posts	Poppertsgunparts.com has them in stock for $15. The proper search term if looking elsewhere would be "Luger locking bolt spring". -Bob

07-09-2024, 05:49 AM	#12
dendk New User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a 1916 nice gun

07-09-2024, 05:24 PM	#13
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 769 Thanks: 2,188 Thanked 656 Times in 350 Posts	Thanks for sharing your Luger here. I love Erfurt's They have a lot of stamps on all the small parts. The Grip screws should be marked, but I don't think they are. It is definately worth repairing.