1906 Navy for sale from Simpson's

jeb111 · 03-12-2022, 05:53 PM

I saw a 1906 Navy come up for sale at Simpson's. Looks like an honest Navy #2693 no suffix. It is not on Norm's list Didn't say if internal #'s match. I noticed that the Navy proof on the barrel was overlayed on the serial #, is that something that happened on occasion? I would think the German's would be a little neater. Anyway, thoughts?
Jim

Edward Tinker · 03-12-2022, 07:24 PM

I do not know Navies, however, I have seen police that were commercial with the serial number stamped over the Crown N

Mac Cat · 03-12-2022, 07:48 PM

I didn't see that one (#2693).
D16517 is S/N 2793 and listed for $5,750
They say it has good rifling and some oxidation (whew, glad it wasn't rusted).
It has a grip strap marking "WD 579" which they say is Danzig Dockyard.

It looks nice, but no mention of matching parts internally.
You should ask.
I would expect they are, though.
Simpson's has a stellar reputation and an impressive inventory.

They are on my Bucket list for a personal visit one day.

Mac Cat · 03-12-2022, 07:52 PM

They also have 1917 with a 1916 barrel and a reproduction stock for $1,750.
SKU: C49806

Mac Cat · 03-12-2022, 08:11 PM

Barrel close-ups from S/N 2793

jeb111 · 03-12-2022, 08:28 PM

OOps yeah I meant to say 2793.

Major Tom · 03-13-2022, 07:29 AM

If you go to Simpson's shop, know that only 2 people allowed in the door at a time. They are like other stores that are way behind in the covid issue.

Norme · 03-13-2022, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Tom

If you go to Simpson's shop, know that only 2 people allowed in the door at a time. They are like other stores that are way behind in the covid issue.

Speaking as a member of a high risk group (I'm 83), I'd rather visit a store that's "behind the times" than one that's cutting edge.
Norm
P.S. I see no issues with the gun in question.

Patrick Sweeney · 03-14-2022, 11:18 AM

On the Simpsons navy what can be done about a "poor bore"? A new barrel comes to mind, but what's the cost on something like that? It is already not a primo collectible, so would replacing the barrel be a crime against humanity?

Norme · 03-14-2022, 12:30 PM

Shame on you Patrick! 1906 Navy #2793 is a very desirable and collectible gun. If you want to shoot a Navy Luger find yourself a mis-matched one, there are enough of them out there.
Norm

Ron Wood · 03-14-2022, 12:31 PM

Replacing the barrel would be a waste of time and money, there is no point in it.
Ron

Edward Tinker · 03-14-2022, 01:48 PM

Replacing the barrel would actually detract from it collectibility wise and value wise. Both would go down.

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Patrick Sweeney · 03-15-2022, 12:26 PM

I was looking at Smpson inventory # C49806 , serial number 4928, listed as having a poor bore. A poor bore makes it non-shootable, and I was looking to make it a shooter for an article or three.

Vlim · 03-15-2022, 01:38 PM

Even a poor bore on a luger causes no accuracy problems.

Norme · 03-15-2022, 02:33 PM

Hi Patrick,
I have no quarrel with you changing the barrel on 1917 Navy #4928, it's certainly not a collectible piece.
Norm

03-12-2022, 05:53 PM	#1
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 716 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	1906 Navy for sale from Simpson's I saw a 1906 Navy come up for sale at Simpson's. Looks like an honest Navy #2693 no suffix. It is not on Norm's list Didn't say if internal #'s match. I noticed that the Navy proof on the barrel was overlayed on the serial #, is that something that happened on occasion? I would think the German's would be a little neater. Anyway, thoughts? Jim

03-12-2022, 08:11 PM	#5
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 748 Thanks: 2,146 Thanked 628 Times in 338 Posts	Barrel close-ups from S/N 2793 Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

03-13-2022, 07:29 AM	#7
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 228 Times in 125 Posts	If you go to Simpson's shop, know that only 2 people allowed in the door at a time. They are like other stores that are way behind in the covid issue. __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

03-14-2022, 12:31 PM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,238 Times in 1,718 Posts	Replacing the barrel would be a waste of time and money, there is no point in it. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-12-2022, 07:24 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,955 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 4,573 Times in 2,110 Posts	I do not know Navies, however, I have seen police that were commercial with the serial number stamped over the Crown N

03-12-2022, 07:48 PM	#3
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 748 Thanks: 2,146 Thanked 628 Times in 338 Posts	I didn't see that one (#2693). D16517 is S/N 2793 and listed for $5,750 They say it has good rifling and some oxidation (whew, glad it wasn't rusted). It has a grip strap marking "WD 579" which they say is Danzig Dockyard. It looks nice, but no mention of matching parts internally. You should ask. I would expect they are, though. Simpson's has a stellar reputation and an impressive inventory. They are on my Bucket list for a personal visit one day.

03-12-2022, 07:52 PM	#4
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 748 Thanks: 2,146 Thanked 628 Times in 338 Posts	They also have 1917 with a 1916 barrel and a reproduction stock for $1,750. SKU: C49806

03-12-2022, 08:28 PM	#6
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 716 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	OOps yeah I meant to say 2793.

03-14-2022, 11:18 AM	#9
Patrick Sweeney User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 53 Times in 26 Posts	On the Simpsons navy what can be done about a "poor bore"? A new barrel comes to mind, but what's the cost on something like that? It is already not a primo collectible, so would replacing the barrel be a crime against humanity?

03-14-2022, 12:30 PM	#10
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Shame on you Patrick! 1906 Navy #2793 is a very desirable and collectible gun. If you want to shoot a Navy Luger find yourself a mis-matched one, there are enough of them out there. Norm

03-14-2022, 01:48 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,955 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 4,573 Times in 2,110 Posts	Replacing the barrel would actually detract from it collectibility wise and value wise. Both would go down. ****Mac Cat and others - you can EDIT your response after posting - see the pencil and paper icon, lower right of each posting by a member.

03-15-2022, 12:26 PM	#13
Patrick Sweeney User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 53 Times in 26 Posts	I was looking at Smpson inventory # C49806 , serial number 4928, listed as having a poor bore. A poor bore makes it non-shootable, and I was looking to make it a shooter for an article or three.

03-15-2022, 01:38 PM	#14
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Even a poor bore on a luger causes no accuracy problems.

03-15-2022, 02:33 PM	#15
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Patrick, I have no quarrel with you changing the barrel on 1917 Navy #4928, it's certainly not a collectible piece. Norm