Gun show withdrawal

jeb111 · 02-12-2021, 08:24 AM

Going to a gun show this weekend, first one worth going to since COVID-19. Talked with a Luger collector on the phone who usually attends to confirm that he will be there, he has a Brazilian and a Byf both all matching #’s and both with the same serial numbers. He’s trying to sell them as a pair. I had a chance to buy the Brazilian by itself last year but passed and kicked myself later! It was reasonably priced but now paired with the Byf I don’t know. All I know is I have mad money 💰 burning 🔥 a hole in my pocket. I just hope the weather cooperates, way below zero and snowing today, should let up some by tomorrow.

Bill_in_VA · 02-12-2021, 08:46 AM

Buy the pair and resell the byf. Recover some of your outlay; no need to keep it if you don’t want it.

sheepherder · 02-12-2021, 10:19 AM

You passed on a Brazilian contract???

You must be mad! Mad!

Definitely get the pair! Like Bill says, you can always sell the byf. In fact, make a big deal of showing the pair to your wife, explain how rare it is to have a matching serial pair, and let her convince you to sell the byf. She'll be satisfied that you're happy to compromise and you'll have a really neat addition to your collection. Marital harmony is achieved and everyone is happy.

Ron Wood · 02-12-2021, 11:01 AM

Grab it! A difficult variation to find. One of the nicest Lugers I have is a Brazilian.
Ron

jeb111 · 02-12-2021, 12:07 PM

Wow never thought of buying the pair and reselling the Byf. Just because both have same serial #'s doesn't mean much does it? Anyway the finish on the Brazilian isn't as nearly as nice as Mr. Wood's but it is a Brazilian just the same. Thanks for the good advice!

HerrKaiser · 02-12-2021, 06:34 PM

Jeb,

Last spring about this time I also had an opportunity to buy a Brazilian for a good price, I didn't even really have the spare cash but I worked out a nice trade deal. He got a holster to complete a WWII Luger Rig and a shooter grade Steyr-Hahn, I got this beautiful condition gun(for a Brazilian, Ron's gun is a unicorn example of a tropical Luger). I miss the Steyr-Hahn a little, but have zero regrets about the deal.

Joe in Colorado · 02-12-2021, 08:59 PM

I was just poking around and found this thread showing interest in Brazilian Lugers.

I recently bought a great Mauser Banner commercial from the dealer in the link below, great service, 3 day inspection period.

I would buy the Brazilian they have-looks like it is from the same high quality collection as my Banner-but I just can't afford to buy everything nice.

However-if I can connect a fellow collector with the dealer who treated me well I would be satisfied-here is the link to the pistol:

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101590321

Cheers, Joe

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Ron Wood · 02-12-2021, 09:32 PM

That GunsInternational Brazilian is a nice looking piece, however I am pretty sure it is a refinish/restore...look at the takedown lever and the pin in the top of the toggle knobs for starters. Still, it would be a cool place holder in a collection.
Ron

jeb111 · 02-13-2021, 08:02 AM

HerrKaiser I remember your posts from when you got your Brazilian and it peeked my interest for some reason. I should have bought it when I had the chance, price was reasonable but the finish was is a bit rough. I have been really holding out for a high end AE. Anyway it may all be a moot point as the weather clobbered us this weekend with subzero temperatures and snow with high winds makes driving on uncertain road conditions a real hassle. Besides I talked with seller on the phone and his partner is pretty adamant about selling the pair on Gunbroker. I haven’t given up completely I plan on calling seller if I can’t make show and see what can be done. I am not a wheeler and dealer generally but this Luger is becoming my white whale.

DonVoigt · 02-13-2021, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeb111

Wow never thought of buying the pair and reselling the Byf. Just because both have same serial #'s doesn't mean much does it? Anyway the finish on the Brazilian isn't as nearly as nice as Mr. Wood's but it is a Brazilian just the same. Thanks for the good advice!

Matching serial numbers means zilch to 99%+ guys, in this case- as there is no connection between the two models. Except of course to the seller, who thinks it is a selling point.

Very few collectors would consider the same numbers on two lugers as anything other than a "co-incidence". JMHO.

jeb111 · 02-13-2021, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Matching serial numbers means zilch to 99%+ guys, in this case- as there is no connection between the two models. Except of course to the seller, who thinks it is a selling point.

Very few collectors would consider the same numbers on two lugers as anything other than a "co-incidence". JMHO.

I totally agree, I just think if posted on Gunbroker someone else might think different and be willing to pay way more than the sum total value just to have the novelty of the coincidence. Little frustrating.

02-12-2021, 08:24 AM	#1
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 719 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	Gun show withdrawal Going to a gun show this weekend, first one worth going to since COVID-19. Talked with a Luger collector on the phone who usually attends to confirm that he will be there, he has a Brazilian and a Byf both all matching #’s and both with the same serial numbers. He’s trying to sell them as a pair. I had a chance to buy the Brazilian by itself last year but passed and kicked myself later! It was reasonably priced but now paired with the Byf I don’t know. All I know is I have mad money 💰 burning 🔥 a hole in my pocket. I just hope the weather cooperates, way below zero and snowing today, should let up some by tomorrow.

02-12-2021, 08:46 AM	#2
Bill_in_VA User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 387 Thanks: 801 Thanked 577 Times in 207 Posts	Buy the pair and resell the byf. Recover some of your outlay; no need to keep it if you don’t want it. __________________ John 8:32 reive (riːv) vb (Military) (intr) dialect Scot and Northern English to go on a plundering raid [variant of reave] ˈreiver n e.g., " Some view the Border Reivers as loveable rogues."

02-12-2021, 10:19 AM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,195 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	You passed on a Brazilian contract??? You must be mad! Mad! Definitely get the pair! Like Bill says, you can always sell the byf. In fact, make a big deal of showing the pair to your wife, explain how rare it is to have a matching serial pair, and let her convince you to sell the byf. She'll be satisfied that you're happy to compromise and you'll have a really neat addition to your collection. Marital harmony is achieved and everyone is happy. __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

02-12-2021, 11:01 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,239 Times in 1,718 Posts	Grab it! A difficult variation to find. One of the nicest Lugers I have is a Brazilian. Ron Attached Thumbnails __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-12-2021, 06:34 PM	#6
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 866 Thanks: 816 Thanked 879 Times in 421 Posts	Jeb, Last spring about this time I also had an opportunity to buy a Brazilian for a good price, I didn't even really have the spare cash but I worked out a nice trade deal. He got a holster to complete a WWII Luger Rig and a shooter grade Steyr-Hahn, I got this beautiful condition gun(for a Brazilian, Ron's gun is a unicorn example of a tropical Luger). I miss the Steyr-Hahn a little, but have zero regrets about the deal. Attached Images __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

02-12-2021, 12:07 PM	#5
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 719 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	Wow never thought of buying the pair and reselling the Byf. Just because both have same serial #'s doesn't mean much does it? Anyway the finish on the Brazilian isn't as nearly as nice as Mr. Wood's but it is a Brazilian just the same. Thanks for the good advice!

02-12-2021, 08:59 PM	#7
Joe in Colorado User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 71 Thanks: 103 Thanked 136 Times in 38 Posts	Brazilian sn 114 on GI I was just poking around and found this thread showing interest in Brazilian Lugers. I recently bought a great Mauser Banner commercial from the dealer in the link below, great service, 3 day inspection period. I would buy the Brazilian they have-looks like it is from the same high quality collection as my Banner-but I just can't afford to buy everything nice. However-if I can connect a fellow collector with the dealer who treated me well I would be satisfied-here is the link to the pistol: https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101590321 Cheers, Joe

02-12-2021, 09:32 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,239 Times in 1,718 Posts	That GunsInternational Brazilian is a nice looking piece, however I am pretty sure it is a refinish/restore...look at the takedown lever and the pin in the top of the toggle knobs for starters. Still, it would be a cool place holder in a collection. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction Last edited by Ron Wood; 02-12-2021 at 11:29 PM.

02-13-2021, 08:02 AM	#9
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 719 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	HerrKaiser I remember your posts from when you got your Brazilian and it peeked my interest for some reason. I should have bought it when I had the chance, price was reasonable but the finish was is a bit rough. I have been really holding out for a high end AE. Anyway it may all be a moot point as the weather clobbered us this weekend with subzero temperatures and snow with high winds makes driving on uncertain road conditions a real hassle. Besides I talked with seller on the phone and his partner is pretty adamant about selling the pair on Gunbroker. I haven’t given up completely I plan on calling seller if I can’t make show and see what can be done. I am not a wheeler and dealer generally but this Luger is becoming my white whale.