FTF on 1915

jvm · 01-27-2020, 05:11 PM

I have a FTF on a 1915 (another) one

I assume the firing pin is broken??

Would replacing the firing pin change the value as it is an all matching pistol??

DavidJayUden · 01-27-2020, 05:39 PM

Yes, it will hurt the value if you replace a numbered part.
Should be easy to visually ID the pin and determine if it is broken. Save the original regardless of what you end up doing.
Could be a failure to close completely, bad ammo or hard primers, or any number of other things. One time in how often? How do the primers on the fired cases look, vs. failure to fire, assuming that the primer is being struck at all.
Will the FTF round fire if ran thru again, or in a diff. gun?
dju

jvm · 01-27-2020, 07:21 PM

no marks on the primers, none fired

DavidJayUden · 01-27-2020, 07:30 PM

So the pin isn't even hitting the primer? Post close-up photos of the firing pin.
dju

DavidJayUden · 01-27-2020, 07:31 PM

Also, you are definitely using 9x19, 9mm Luger ammo, not .380?
dju

jvm · 01-28-2020, 01:44 PM

the ammo was White Box Winchester.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-28-2020, 02:26 PM

White Box Winchester. .380? Or as the previous post asked, 9MM? Simply dismantle the pistol and inspect the firing pin. Do you hear a "click" when you attempt to fire the weapon?
You have to do your part to answer questions and investigate...

Eugen · 01-28-2020, 08:29 PM

Just to add to what Jerry said above, have cleaned and properly lubed the firearm? Is it cycling smoothly. What is your history with the Luger? Did it work for you or prior owner before? You need to provide more detailed info for us to help you.

jvm · 01-28-2020, 08:50 PM

the ammo was 9mm factory

pistol was bought from a good dealer will take it back this Saturday

DonVoigt · 01-29-2020, 11:54 AM

I was a little confused from the get go, two 1915 pistols!
FTF- usually means failure to feed.

A failure to fire could be broken striker nose(which can be repaired-preserving the original number), weak striker spring, or grease in the striker bore of the bolt; or a faulty sear/trigger that is not releasing the striker.

maybe your dealer can figure out which / what is the problem.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-29-2020, 12:05 PM

pistol was bought from a good dealer will take it back this Saturday. While your there have him show you how to field strip a Luger. That seems to be your main difficulty from what I read here.

gunbugs · 01-29-2020, 04:30 PM

FTF- usually means failure to feed.

The problem with using abbreviations that can mean several things.
FTF, failure to feed, fire, or possibly function.
FTE, Failure to extract, or eject. Two different functions. I know most of the folks on here are pretty specific. Others...Not so much. It doesn't take much to hit a couple more keys and spell it out. Heck, I thought I was specific in my "WTB" post last night, and I already have a "random" offer that I wasn't looking for.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-29-2020, 04:56 PM

Or face to face.

gunbugs · 01-29-2020, 08:14 PM

Or face to face.

Got me. I missed that one.

jvm · 01-29-2020, 08:16 PM

I admit I am a new at Lugers

I don't want to screw them up for the next generation

01-27-2020, 05:11 PM	#1
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	FTF on 1915 I have a FTF on a 1915 (another) one I assume the firing pin is broken?? Would replacing the firing pin change the value as it is an all matching pistol??

01-28-2020, 02:26 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	White Box Winchester. .380? Or as the previous post asked, 9MM? Simply dismantle the pistol and inspect the firing pin. Do you hear a "click" when you attempt to fire the weapon? You have to do your part to answer questions and investigate... __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-28-2020, 08:29 PM	#8
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 393 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Just to add to what Jerry said above, have cleaned and properly lubed the firearm? Is it cycling smoothly. What is your history with the Luger? Did it work for you or prior owner before? You need to provide more detailed info for us to help you. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

01-29-2020, 11:54 AM	#10
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	I was a little confused from the get go, two 1915 pistols! FTF- usually means failure to feed. A failure to fire could be broken striker nose(which can be repaired-preserving the original number), weak striker spring, or grease in the striker bore of the bolt; or a faulty sear/trigger that is not releasing the striker. maybe your dealer can figure out which / what is the problem. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-29-2020, 12:05 PM	#11
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	pistol was bought from a good dealer will take it back this Saturday. While your there have him show you how to field strip a Luger. That seems to be your main difficulty from what I read here. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-27-2020, 05:39 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Yes, it will hurt the value if you replace a numbered part. Should be easy to visually ID the pin and determine if it is broken. Save the original regardless of what you end up doing. Could be a failure to close completely, bad ammo or hard primers, or any number of other things. One time in how often? How do the primers on the fired cases look, vs. failure to fire, assuming that the primer is being struck at all. Will the FTF round fire if ran thru again, or in a diff. gun? dju

01-27-2020, 07:21 PM	#3
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	no marks on the primers, none fired

01-27-2020, 07:30 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	So the pin isn't even hitting the primer? Post close-up photos of the firing pin. dju

01-27-2020, 07:31 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Also, you are definitely using 9x19, 9mm Luger ammo, not .380? dju

01-28-2020, 01:44 PM	#6
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	the ammo was White Box Winchester.

01-28-2020, 08:50 PM	#9
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	the ammo was 9mm factory pistol was bought from a good dealer will take it back this Saturday

01-29-2020, 04:30 PM	#12
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 657 Thanks: 364 Thanked 1,175 Times in 393 Posts	FTF- usually means failure to feed. The problem with using abbreviations that can mean several things. FTF, failure to feed, fire, or possibly function. FTE, Failure to extract, or eject. Two different functions. I know most of the folks on here are pretty specific. Others...Not so much. It doesn't take much to hit a couple more keys and spell it out. Heck, I thought I was specific in my "WTB" post last night, and I already have a "random" offer that I wasn't looking for.

01-29-2020, 04:56 PM	#13
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Or face to face. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-29-2020, 08:14 PM	#14
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 657 Thanks: 364 Thanked 1,175 Times in 393 Posts	Or face to face. Got me. I missed that one.

01-29-2020, 08:16 PM	#15
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I admit I am a new at Lugers I don't want to screw them up for the next generation