New to me Luger

Fyrtwuck · 01-13-2019, 02:34 PM

I got a Luger in a trade a few years ago and I’d like to know more about it. It has Nazi Eagles? and another marking on the bottom of the barrel that I know nothing about.

There two parts with numbers on the left side that don’t match and I don’t know if it’s possible to replace those or not.

It’s a byf 41. The numbers are 12.

I don’t know how to post pictures here, so if someone can point me in the right direction, I’d appreciate it.

Thanks

mrerick · 01-13-2019, 04:03 PM

You can start off with the reference we publish. Our FAQ PDF has a wealth of background information.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121

You can post pictures from the advanced editor. Hit the "Go Advanced" button.

Take them in shaded natural sunlight (without flash) and size them to about 1024 pixels along the longest axis. Use a camera that allows you to control focus, and use a tripod if possible to keep things sharp.

Fyrtwuck · 01-13-2019, 05:30 PM

I tried the “Go Advanced” button and it asked for a URL link.

Do you have to have them posted on a hosting site somewhere or can you upload them directly from your device? (iPad).

4 Scale · 01-13-2019, 06:33 PM

How to post pictures http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=22994

You can upload directly from your device.

Pending photos, you seem to have a mostly matching Mauser military Luger. Replacing non-matching parts can be done, but takes effort and time with no guarantee of success. Even if replacement parts with the correct two digits are found, many including me would argue the pistol is still less than an all-matching collectible example.

Fyrtwuck · 01-13-2019, 07:12 PM

Ok, let’s try this again.

Fyrtwuck · 01-13-2019, 07:17 PM

Here are a few more.

Fyrtwuck · 01-13-2019, 07:20 PM

Still trying.

Fyrtwuck · 01-13-2019, 07:24 PM

So far, the only two parts I’ve found that don’t match are the side plate and that lever right next to it.

Thanks for the help 4 Scale.

rolandtg · 01-13-2019, 10:52 PM

Interesting! Looks like it may have been struck by a bullet perhaps or at least it's taken a hard blow to the side and the side plate was later replaced.

Fyrtwuck · 01-14-2019, 10:49 AM

I thought about that myself. I actually placed the nose of a 9mm round against that indentation and fits perfectly. The previous owner didn’t know any history about this pistol or how it made it’s way to the US.

That dent made me wonder. Was this gun shot out of the hand of a German (old movie style) by an allied soldier with a 9mm? Possibly a Sten? What other 9mm guns did the allies use? Or, could it have been hit by another Germans bullet?

When I placed the nose of the bullet in that dent the angle shows that the impact came from the front, lower and to the left of where the pistol was pointed.

HerrKaiser · 01-14-2019, 11:07 AM

Friendly fire is indeed a reality in wartime for all sides.

Karl · 01-14-2019, 11:34 AM

It looks like the take down lever has been ground and repaired with a pin. It also seems to be an Erfurt take down lever. If something stuck the front of the side plate hard it could have pried off the take down lever.

KFS

01-13-2019, 02:34 PM	#1
Fyrtwuck User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New to me Luger I got a Luger in a trade a few years ago and I’d like to know more about it. It has Nazi Eagles? and another marking on the bottom of the barrel that I know nothing about. There two parts with numbers on the left side that don’t match and I don’t know if it’s possible to replace those or not. It’s a byf 41. The numbers are 12. I don’t know how to post pictures here, so if someone can point me in the right direction, I’d appreciate it. Thanks

01-13-2019, 04:03 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	You can start off with the reference we publish. Our FAQ PDF has a wealth of background information. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121 You can post pictures from the advanced editor. Hit the "Go Advanced" button. Take them in shaded natural sunlight (without flash) and size them to about 1024 pixels along the longest axis. Use a camera that allows you to control focus, and use a tripod if possible to keep things sharp. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-13-2019, 07:12 PM	#5
Fyrtwuck User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, let’s try this again. Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2019, 07:17 PM	#6
Fyrtwuck User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are a few more. Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2019, 07:20 PM	#7
Fyrtwuck User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Still trying. Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2019, 05:30 PM	#3
Fyrtwuck User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I tried the “Go Advanced” button and it asked for a URL link. Do you have to have them posted on a hosting site somewhere or can you upload them directly from your device? (iPad).

01-13-2019, 06:33 PM	#4
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 490 Times in 251 Posts	How to post pictures http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=22994 You can upload directly from your device. Pending photos, you seem to have a mostly matching Mauser military Luger. Replacing non-matching parts can be done, but takes effort and time with no guarantee of success. Even if replacement parts with the correct two digits are found, many including me would argue the pistol is still less than an all-matching collectible example.

01-13-2019, 07:24 PM	#8
Fyrtwuck User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So far, the only two parts I’ve found that don’t match are the side plate and that lever right next to it. Thanks for the help 4 Scale.

01-13-2019, 10:52 PM	#9
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	Interesting! Looks like it may have been struck by a bullet perhaps or at least it's taken a hard blow to the side and the side plate was later replaced.

01-14-2019, 10:49 AM	#10
Fyrtwuck User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought about that myself. I actually placed the nose of a 9mm round against that indentation and fits perfectly. The previous owner didn’t know any history about this pistol or how it made it’s way to the US. That dent made me wonder. Was this gun shot out of the hand of a German (old movie style) by an allied soldier with a 9mm? Possibly a Sten? What other 9mm guns did the allies use? Or, could it have been hit by another Germans bullet? When I placed the nose of the bullet in that dent the angle shows that the impact came from the front, lower and to the left of where the pistol was pointed. Last edited by Fyrtwuck; 01-16-2019 at 10:49 AM.

01-14-2019, 11:07 AM	#11
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 867 Thanks: 816 Thanked 880 Times in 422 Posts	Friendly fire is indeed a reality in wartime for all sides. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

01-14-2019, 11:34 AM	#12
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 530 Thanks: 0 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	It looks like the take down lever has been ground and repaired with a pin. It also seems to be an Erfurt take down lever. If something stuck the front of the side plate hard it could have pried off the take down lever. KFS