Toggle not locking at all anymore?

Rick W. · 08-28-2018, 09:50 PM

Sometimes folks will change out the button on the side of the magazine because of wear somewhere in the pistol. When I think of magazine height in the pistol kinda refers me to the notch in the magazine or the magazine latch itself, this also refers me to feeding height of cartridges.

The little button as you found out effects the hold open height when the mag is empty. The parameters above can enter into the operation of holdopen as well. I think the little leaf spring's main duty is to hold the holdopen itself down into the frame, until it is overpowered by the magazine. Recoil bounce should not effect the leaf spring's capability or you will get premature stoppages.

New oem buttons for magazines are usually available. Probably cost more than the new after market mag you bought though. I once got a Luger magazine that featured a portion of a bridge spike for the magazine button. The previous owner shaped it nicely and it worked. Have to admire using what you have sometimes, rather than throw money at things, all in the eye of the beholder.

I find the Italian magazines of nice quality, works fine in my Lugers; and mine are not all original anymore, shows the flexibility of their product I think.

You took some measurements, now you know how much bigger the button ought to be to work in your current environment. Sometimes tape can be wrapped around the outer edge, and then measured when things begin to jive.

Ammo is only one parameter of the function equasion. Easy to try I reckon and sometimes does the trick. I once had a previously owned Luger that I could barely pull the toggle train out of the receiver, the forks were twisted big time. A bit of a pain in the neck back then, but nowadays some guys have jigs for such work.

08-28-2018, 09:50 PM	#23
Rick W. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 339 Thanks: 81 Thanked 359 Times in 198 Posts	Sometimes folks will change out the button on the side of the magazine because of wear somewhere in the pistol. When I think of magazine height in the pistol kinda refers me to the notch in the magazine or the magazine latch itself, this also refers me to feeding height of cartridges. The little button as you found out effects the hold open height when the mag is empty. The parameters above can enter into the operation of holdopen as well. I think the little leaf spring's main duty is to hold the holdopen itself down into the frame, until it is overpowered by the magazine. Recoil bounce should not effect the leaf spring's capability or you will get premature stoppages. New oem buttons for magazines are usually available. Probably cost more than the new after market mag you bought though. I once got a Luger magazine that featured a portion of a bridge spike for the magazine button. The previous owner shaped it nicely and it worked. Have to admire using what you have sometimes, rather than throw money at things, all in the eye of the beholder. I find the Italian magazines of nice quality, works fine in my Lugers; and mine are not all original anymore, shows the flexibility of their product I think. You took some measurements, now you know how much bigger the button ought to be to work in your current environment. Sometimes tape can be wrapped around the outer edge, and then measured when things begin to jive. Ammo is only one parameter of the function equasion. Easy to try I reckon and sometimes does the trick. I once had a previously owned Luger that I could barely pull the toggle train out of the receiver, the forks were twisted big time. A bit of a pain in the neck back then, but nowadays some guys have jigs for such work.