DWM Commercial 9mmP

Kyrie · 09-26-2017, 04:35 PM

Let’s remember that German proof law requires each and every firearm that is offered for commercial sale pass proof and be so marked, and the final (or definitive) mark is the firing proof. Without passing proof a firearm may not be legally sold.

That there are (1920 Commercial) Lugers, clearly sold in Germany on the commercial market, without proof, demonstrates the proof laws were ignored for some guns. We don’t know why some guns were submitted for proof and some were not, but the physical evidence shows that was the case.

Some of these guns have parts salvaged from older guns, and some of these parts still show the (now invalid) commercial (or military) firing proof (and in some cases military inspection/acceptance stamps) applied to the gun from which they were salvaged. In other guns these same kinds of parts may show evidence that the old firing proofs (and sometimes old military inspection/acceptance stamps) were (quite properly) removed.

All this is part and parcel of the confusion that goes hand in hand with the 1920 Commercial Luger variants. They just don’t follow what collectors consider to be “the rules”, and are inexplicable when collectors attempt to apply the rules. Applying the rules to each part of some of these guns ends up creating more than one story, and the stories frequently diverge.

These guns make for lively discussions, and can fuel some entertaining lines of speculation. But ultimately we just don’t know and cannot know with certainty when, by whom, and for what purpose they were made. I think it’s wise to keep that in mind when tempted to become dogmatic on some pet line of speculation

09-26-2017, 04:35 PM	#25
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Let’s remember that German proof law requires each and every firearm that is offered for commercial sale pass proof and be so marked, and the final (or definitive) mark is the firing proof. Without passing proof a firearm may not be legally sold. That there are (1920 Commercial) Lugers, clearly sold in Germany on the commercial market, without proof, demonstrates the proof laws were ignored for some guns. We don’t know why some guns were submitted for proof and some were not, but the physical evidence shows that was the case. Some of these guns have parts salvaged from older guns, and some of these parts still show the (now invalid) commercial (or military) firing proof (and in some cases military inspection/acceptance stamps) applied to the gun from which they were salvaged. In other guns these same kinds of parts may show evidence that the old firing proofs (and sometimes old military inspection/acceptance stamps) were (quite properly) removed. All this is part and parcel of the confusion that goes hand in hand with the 1920 Commercial Luger variants. They just don’t follow what collectors consider to be “the rules”, and are inexplicable when collectors attempt to apply the rules. Applying the rules to each part of some of these guns ends up creating more than one story, and the stories frequently diverge. These guns make for lively discussions, and can fuel some entertaining lines of speculation. But ultimately we just don’t know and cannot know with certainty when, by whom, and for what purpose they were made. I think it’s wise to keep that in mind when tempted to become dogmatic on some pet line of speculation