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IKE · 07-01-2017, 10:33 PM

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4 Scale · 07-01-2017, 11:10 PM

Welcome, you're in the right place. If you will post pictures members will comment. Also be sure to check out the stickies in this forum esp. FAQ.

DavidJayUden · 07-02-2017, 01:26 AM

Very nice looking. I'd like to see some close-ups of the left side of the G date, specifically the side plate. Also is the extractor on the top of the toggle straw colored? Do you know if the gun has been refinished?
dju

gunbugs · 07-02-2017, 03:31 AM

The edges look a little"soft". Kinda looks like a reblue. But it may be the lighting. I could be wrong. Better photos would help.

DavidJayUden · 07-02-2017, 10:25 AM

On the G date is the extractor straw colored or blued?
dju

Norme · 07-02-2017, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

On the G date is the extractor straw colored or blued?
dju

Here you go ,David

mrerick · 07-02-2017, 10:53 AM

Hello Ike, and welcome to the forum.

First off, I'd recommend you download and check out the information published in our FAQ PDF document. It's at:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121

and will answer many questions, since we've accumulated quite a bit of Luger knowledge in there.

I also am having problems judging the finish of your "G" date S/42 Luger. The finish and straw look like new, but the edges of the gun look slightly rounded. This happens when a rust blued gun is re-blued and the refinisher cards the finish without paying attention to the edges. The strawed extractor is not correct (as issued by the factory), and confirms that it was redone.

Your byf 41 looks to be in original finish, so you can judge the edges of your "G" date in hand.

You will get better pictures taking them with a digital camera outdoors in natural shaded light using a tripod. This helps you get sharp focus and ensures that the color balance is good without the reflections you see from flash. You can see the uniform appearance and sharpness in Norme's reference photo.

It is very possible that the GI had "freshened" up his Luger at some point, or that he had acquired it from someone else that made it look nice before selling it to him. I've learned to dismiss many of the anecdotal Luger capture stories. We see a number of guns appear here as "captured" by "grandfather" from an "officer" in WW-II, only to have to inform the person that it was a 1920's era gun sold commercially in the USA.

In any case, you have two nice Lugers made by Mauser in 1935 and 1941. They represent close to the bookends of Mauser Luger production.

It's possible to have the left grip chip repaired on the byf 41 Luger. Are those the dog's tooth marks on the grip? "Bad dog!!!"

Marc

DonVoigt · 07-02-2017, 11:13 AM

Welcome.
Sorry, but there is no question that the G date has been refinished.
Nice job, but still refinished.

The 41 looks good.

DonVoigt · 07-02-2017, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Norme

Here you go ,David

Norm,
that is not the OP luger- the pistol in the OP has definitely a strawed extractor, and is refinished.

This one is not.

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Hello Ike, and welcome to the forum. First off, I'd recommend you download and check out the information published in our FAQ PDF document. It's at: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121 and will answer many questions, since we've accumulated quite a bit of Luger knowledge in there. I also am having problems judging the finish of your "G" date S/42 Luger. The finish and straw look like new, but the edges of the gun look slightly rounded. This happens when a rust blued gun is re-blued and the refinisher cards the finish without paying attention to the edges. The strawed extractor is not correct (as issued by the factory), and confirms that it was redone. Your byf 41 looks to be in original finish, so you can judge the edges of your "G" date in hand. You will get better pictures taking them with a digital camera outdoors in natural shaded light using a tripod. This helps you get sharp focus and ensures that the color balance is good without the reflections you see from flash. You can see the uniform appearance and sharpness in Norme's reference photo. It is very possible that the GI had "freshened" up his Luger at some point, or that he had acquired it from someone else that made it look nice before selling it to him. I've learned to dismiss many of the anecdotal Luger capture stories. We see a number of guns appear here as "captured" by "grandfather" from an "officer" in WW-II, only to have to inform the person that it was a 1920's era gun sold commercially in the USA. In any case, you have two nice Lugers made by Mauser in 1935 and 1941. They represent close to the bookends of Mauser Luger production. It's possible to have the left grip chip repaired on the byf 41 Luger. Are those the dog's tooth marks on the grip? "Bad dog!!!" Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

07-02-2017, 11:13 AM	#8
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,352 Times in 2,040 Posts	Welcome. Sorry, but there is no question that the G date has been refinished. Nice job, but still refinished. The 41 looks good. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 490 Times in 251 Posts	Welcome, you're in the right place. If you will post pictures members will comment. Also be sure to check out the stickies in this forum esp. FAQ.

07-02-2017, 01:26 AM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Very nice looking. I'd like to see some close-ups of the left side of the G date, specifically the side plate. Also is the extractor on the top of the toggle straw colored? Do you know if the gun has been refinished? dju

07-02-2017, 03:31 AM	#4
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 660 Thanks: 367 Thanked 1,180 Times in 395 Posts	The edges look a little"soft". Kinda looks like a reblue. But it may be the lighting. I could be wrong. Better photos would help.

07-02-2017, 10:25 AM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	On the G date is the extractor straw colored or blued? dju