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ToggleTop · 10-02-2002, 11:02 PM

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Would this be considered a shooter or a collector grade luger?

Thor · 10-02-2002, 11:23 PM

A very nice restoration, but I consider a Shooter than I probably wouldnt shoot much. They missed some Ss on the mag release button, and Take down lever, etc I have a first variation K date that I am restoring for my own collection. This one in the ad is a second variation I believe. K dates are pretty rare and the restorer did a very nice job on this pistol. The S on the side plate and the left Reciever seem out of place to me, but I dont see many K dates myself!

Lonnie Zimmerman · 10-03-2002, 12:02 AM

Thor; the K-date you did for me has the S on the side plate and an S on the right side, just above the proofs. That is a pretty gun!
Lonnie

Jan C Still · 10-03-2002, 02:52 AM

Big Norm · 10-03-2002, 08:47 AM

Whew! It sure is nice to have a guy like Jan around.
Big Norm

Alain · 10-03-2002, 12:56 PM

Dear Gentlemen,

I appeal to your expertise in submitting to your scrutiny a mistery frame with strange features:

- added grip safety with mounting block and enlagerd slot.

- safety lever frame area slightly milled (on entire area) down as if to erase a marking.

- stock lug absent BUT enough excess metal to machine it. There is a big round smooth bump where a stock lug is normally located.

It came with a mix of Simson and Navy parts. Could it be a an added grip safety Simson commercial?

Frame is numbered 43220, but it seems to me to have been originally "322".
It also has a horizontal C/N proof on left frame rail.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

Alain Capel

Paris France

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ToggleTop · 10-05-2002, 06:17 PM

I guess that was not a bad price for a K-Date with two numbered magazines. How about you, what do you think?

Thor · 10-05-2002, 11:30 PM

K-Dates are cool!!!

ToggleTop · 10-05-2002, 11:42 PM

Hello Thor,
Your right about K-Dates being cool. For the last few years that's all I have collected. They are a completely different breed of the Mauser made lugers. I have never completely figured them out. There are many subtle differences between them. The one in your image is really nice. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

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Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	A very nice restoration, but I consider a Shooter than I probably wouldnt shoot much. They missed some Ss on the mag release button, and Take down lever, etc I have a first variation K date that I am restoring for my own collection. This one in the ad is a second variation I believe. K dates are pretty rare and the restorer did a very nice job on this pistol. The S on the side plate and the left Reciever seem out of place to me, but I dont see many K dates myself! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

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Lonnie Zimmerman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 523 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thor; the K-date you did for me has the S on the side plate and an S on the right side, just above the proofs. That is a pretty gun! Lonnie __________________ Lonnie Zimmerman

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ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I guess that was not a bad price for a K-Date with two numbered magazines. How about you, what do you think? __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

10-05-2002, 11:30 PM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	K-Dates are cool!!! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

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Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts

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Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Whew! It sure is nice to have a guy like Jan around. Big Norm

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Alain Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: france Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dear Gentlemen, I appeal to your expertise in submitting to your scrutiny a mistery frame with strange features: - added grip safety with mounting block and enlagerd slot. - safety lever frame area slightly milled (on entire area) down as if to erase a marking. - stock lug absent BUT enough excess metal to machine it. There is a big round smooth bump where a stock lug is normally located. It came with a mix of Simson and Navy parts. Could it be a an added grip safety Simson commercial? Frame is numbered 43220, but it seems to me to have been originally "322". It also has a horizontal C/N proof on left frame rail. Thanks a lot in advance for your help. Alain Capel Paris France <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />

10-05-2002, 11:42 PM	#9
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Thor, Your right about K-Dates being cool. For the last few years that's all I have collected. They are a completely different breed of the Mauser made lugers. I have never completely figured them out. There are many subtle differences between them. The one in your image is really nice. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************