Collecting vs shooting

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by spacecoast

You're being a little harsh there Don, we know what he meant. I think that's the one where the frame ear broke.



I think a 100 year old Luger is somewhat more prone to breaking than your average 100 year old Colt or S&W revolver due to having more, smaller moving parts subjected to relatively violent motion and high forces. Same with a 1911... the parts are fewer, bigger and tougher, and the design does not involve a relatively fragile toggle assembly slamming into a frame ear.

Harsh,
No, I had no idea what he meant. Now he says rear toggle broke, and you say the frame ear- so I am still confused/

Comparing a revolver to a semi-auto is a stretch, but I have seen and repaired more "broken" revolvers than lugers- the small pieces and springs wear out - then the things won't time. Occasionally even a cylinder "blows" out!

The 1911 is a robust design for sure, but the extractor is a weak point as is the 3 leaf flat spring for the trigger, disconnector and grip safety. I have seen more than one barrel link broken also.
But then they are 100 years old too; and all guns "break"!

We can agree to disagree, but the luger pistols I have seen "broken" were significantly abused, which has nothing to do with the reliability of the design.

And the toggle does not "slam" into the toggle ear, the ear is a ramp and forces the toggle up, there is no way it slams! JMHO.