"New" Luger

johnb593 · 01-25-2017, 03:33 PM

I received this 1917 DWM that has been rebarreled to 7.65 today.

Arizona Slim · 01-25-2017, 04:13 PM

Thanks for the pics John, can't help but wonder why it was re- barreled to 7.65mm?

Lon

sheepherder · 01-25-2017, 04:26 PM

Finnish front sight blade??? Maybe a Tikkakoski barrel???

Does it have an SA on the frame???

Heavily buffed, reblued...Grips look new...Good looking shooter...

johnb593 · 01-25-2017, 04:33 PM

Nor can I Lon. Why not just leave it as built? I like it anyway!

johnb593 · 01-25-2017, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Finnish front sight blade??? Maybe a Tikkakoski barrel???

Does it have an SA on the frame???

Heavily buffed, reblued...Grips look new...Good looking shooter...

It has a lower case "a" but no SA. The barrel was made in Finland.

Arizona Slim · 01-25-2017, 04:38 PM

Yes, I like it too John. I have several 7.65's and don't have a problem with that.

Lon

johnb593 · 01-25-2017, 05:26 PM

Luckily I already had a suitable holster......

cirelaw · 01-25-2017, 06:22 PM

Are barrels interchangeable?

johnb593 · 01-25-2017, 06:59 PM

As I understand it, yes.

ithacaartist · 01-25-2017, 09:54 PM

Eric,

Yes and no. Ron Wood posted some great pics and info on this! This is what I remember, I hope my recollections are not "alternative facts"!

The earliest ones had grip frames that were about 1/10 of an inch longer, and barrel extensions to match. The aforementioned dimension happens in the area of the chamber, so the early ones had longer threaded portions behind the flange, thus will not fit on a later barrel extension for a short frame and short threaded bit, and vice versa--unless creatively adapted.

The shorter frames became the norm fairly soon. If I'm not mistaken, the Swiss guns from Bern and the Mauser Parabellums were also made with the longer grip frames and barrel extensions. I have one '06 AE that is short frame, and another that is long frame, both are numbered in early Commercial style, so without looking it up, I think maybe the transition happened along there somewhere...

You may recall an occasional post about guns with mixed grip frame and upper assembly, where the shorter receiver from a later gun has been cobbled together with an older, long frame--or the other way 'round. The result is that the receiver is either proud of the frame by a noticeable bit, or tucked back into it the same amount, both of which look pretty goofy.

cirelaw · 01-25-2017, 10:22 PM

Thank You My Hero! Up until now I never gave it a thought. I love lugers and our devotion always to learning more about them!~

rhuff · 01-26-2017, 01:51 PM

As Lon stated, the 30 Luger caliber is a fun caliber to shoot, and very accurate. Enjoy.....happiness is having reliable, shooter Lugers!!

John Sabato · 01-26-2017, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Are barrels interchangeable?

Yes, but not by an amateur... using the wrong method or tools will result in a twisted upper receiver...

Have someone who is a competent Luger gunsmith do a barrel change for you if that is what you want. Several members of the forum are qualified to do this work.

If you want suggestions, just ask.

johnb593 · 01-26-2017, 04:56 PM

I appreciate that but I'm okay with it the way it is now.

johnb593 · 01-28-2017, 05:33 PM

As you can see it has the magazine with the wooden base. I'd like to get another mag to go with it that doesn't have the wood base.

Lugerdoc · 01-29-2017, 08:50 AM

johnb, I'm currently sold out of original DWM wood bottomed mags, but so have new stainless repros with wood bottom @$40 + $5 S&H. TH

DonVoigt · 01-29-2017, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnb593

As you can see it has the magazine with the wooden base. I'd like to get another mag to go with it that doesn't have the wood base.

If you want one for shooting, buy a Mecgar- they currently have a plastic base.

If you want something for collecting or ? Please be more specific.

johnb593 · 01-29-2017, 01:33 PM

I would just want it for shooting.

rhuff · 01-29-2017, 02:49 PM

For shooting, IMHO, the Mec-Gar aftermarket mag is the best, and the most affordable mag available for the Luger.

Sergio Natali · 01-30-2017, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnb593

I would just want it for shooting.

I think you've got a very nice "shooter" I would say;

the only drawback is the cost of 7,65 ammo, unless you reload.

01-25-2017, 03:33 PM	#1
johnb593 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	"New" Luger I received this 1917 DWM that has been rebarreled to 7.65 today. Attached Thumbnails

01-25-2017, 04:26 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Finnish front sight blade??? Maybe a Tikkakoski barrel??? Does it have an SA on the frame??? Heavily buffed, reblued...Grips look new...Good looking shooter... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

01-25-2017, 05:26 PM	#7
johnb593 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Luckily I already had a suitable holster...... Attached Thumbnails

01-25-2017, 09:54 PM	#10
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,377 Thanks: 7,452 Thanked 2,613 Times in 1,380 Posts	Eric, Yes and no. Ron Wood posted some great pics and info on this! This is what I remember, I hope my recollections are not "alternative facts"! The earliest ones had grip frames that were about 1/10 of an inch longer, and barrel extensions to match. The aforementioned dimension happens in the area of the chamber, so the early ones had longer threaded portions behind the flange, thus will not fit on a later barrel extension for a short frame and short threaded bit, and vice versa--unless creatively adapted. The shorter frames became the norm fairly soon. If I'm not mistaken, the Swiss guns from Bern and the Mauser Parabellums were also made with the longer grip frames and barrel extensions. I have one '06 AE that is short frame, and another that is long frame, both are numbered in early Commercial style, so without looking it up, I think maybe the transition happened along there somewhere... You may recall an occasional post about guns with mixed grip frame and upper assembly, where the shorter receiver from a later gun has been cobbled together with an older, long frame--or the other way 'round. The result is that the receiver is either proud of the frame by a noticeable bit, or tucked back into it the same amount, both of which look pretty goofy. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

01-29-2017, 08:50 AM	#16
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	johnb, I'm currently sold out of original DWM wood bottomed mags, but so have new stainless repros with wood bottom @$40 + $5 S&H. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-25-2017, 04:13 PM	#2
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	Thanks for the pics John, can't help but wonder why it was re- barreled to 7.65mm? Lon

01-25-2017, 04:33 PM	#4
johnb593 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Nor can I Lon. Why not just leave it as built? I like it anyway!

01-25-2017, 04:38 PM	#6
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	Yes, I like it too John. I have several 7.65's and don't have a problem with that. Lon

01-25-2017, 06:22 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Are barrels interchangeable?

01-25-2017, 06:59 PM	#9
johnb593 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	As I understand it, yes.

01-25-2017, 10:22 PM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Thank You My Hero! Up until now I never gave it a thought. I love lugers and our devotion always to learning more about them!~

01-26-2017, 01:51 PM	#12
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	As Lon stated, the 30 Luger caliber is a fun caliber to shoot, and very accurate. Enjoy.....happiness is having reliable, shooter Lugers!!

01-26-2017, 04:56 PM	#14
johnb593 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I appreciate that but I'm okay with it the way it is now.

01-28-2017, 05:33 PM	#15
johnb593 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	As you can see it has the magazine with the wooden base. I'd like to get another mag to go with it that doesn't have the wood base.

01-29-2017, 01:33 PM	#18
johnb593 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I would just want it for shooting.

01-29-2017, 02:49 PM	#19
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	For shooting, IMHO, the Mec-Gar aftermarket mag is the best, and the most affordable mag available for the Luger.