Martz Lugers

G.T. · 12-17-2016, 02:48 PM

Not all of John's Guns have the MSTR installed... It was a development that he designed early on and incorporated in the majority of his creations, and all with the modification are so marked... It is a difficult bit of machining, and was patented by John and never released to any individual or company, although some tried to convince him otherwise... The JVM in an oval was a much more random mark, and although his pistols may or may not have the JVM, usually they have one or the other marks, or both? Although I can't verify this, I would be suspicious of any gun credited to him, not marked with one or the other?... Almost all of the magazine bottom I made for John, were marked with the JVM in oval and I did it right in my little shop!...
John did make several guns for friends and better customers that were just nice Lugers.. He made me several shooter Navies out of rejected JVM parts and although not collectible as to variation... (1937 Imperial Navy!

) They were nice shooters..I'm sure some of these were/ are being viewed as legitimate JVM variation guns... I also received a custom .30 Target Luger from John with MSTR and marked JVM where the lanyard loop used to be, it is one of a kind!!... The majority of his later guns were his own variations of, baby, .45, and 38 super, in all configurations of barrel length and sights... not to mention carbines of several types... And not to forget baby P.38's, and P.38 carbines.... His work was ALWAYS impeccable, and many times just the lack of quality will tip you off to a JVM fake...I miss him, he was one of my mentors, and treated me better than my family did thru some very rough times in my life... Best to you all, til....lat'r....GT.....

12-17-2016, 02:48 PM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,541 Thanks: 1,342 Thanked 3,742 Times in 1,020 Posts	Johns guns! Not all of John's Guns have the MSTR installed... It was a development that he designed early on and incorporated in the majority of his creations, and all with the modification are so marked... It is a difficult bit of machining, and was patented by John and never released to any individual or company, although some tried to convince him otherwise... The JVM in an oval was a much more random mark, and although his pistols may or may not have the JVM, usually they have one or the other marks, or both? Although I can't verify this, I would be suspicious of any gun credited to him, not marked with one or the other?... Almost all of the magazine bottom I made for John, were marked with the JVM in oval and I did it right in my little shop!... John did make several guns for friends and better customers that were just nice Lugers.. He made me several shooter Navies out of rejected JVM parts and although not collectible as to variation... (1937 Imperial Navy!) They were nice shooters..I'm sure some of these were/ are being viewed as legitimate JVM variation guns... I also received a custom .30 Target Luger from John with MSTR and marked JVM where the lanyard loop used to be, it is one of a kind!!... The majority of his later guns were his own variations of, baby, .45, and 38 super, in all configurations of barrel length and sights... not to mention carbines of several types... And not to forget baby P.38's, and P.38 carbines.... His work was ALWAYS impeccable, and many times just the lack of quality will tip you off to a JVM fake...I miss him, he was one of my mentors, and treated me better than my family did thru some very rough times in my life... Best to you all, til....lat'r....GT.....