Soon to be owner of a 1916 DWM Luger P08 "shooter"

[Big Fre]

Originally Posted by Eugen

I am no gunsmith and I certainly am no Luger expert, but shooting 140gn or 154gn sure seems counterintuitive to me. While a heavier grn will certainly be slower, how will that be a benefit? I would think a heavier grn would definitely place more stress on the toggle system. Try 115grn as we are all suggesting. If 115 grn does not cycle well for some reason, I would suggest you focus on finding out why and fixing the problem. I would not experiment with heavier weights.

But, then like I said I am no expert.

Like I said, I have no intention of trying higher grains ammo, going to try the normal 115gr fmj from different brands to see what works best, maybe try some 124gr, we'll see once we get there, hehe

[Big Fre]

Hi guys, so my gun license for me P08 came in tuesday, but the store was closed then, so I went to get it on wednesday, and go shoot it right after, first photo is just the gun when I took it out for the first time

So in the club shot about 150 bullets through it, shoots pretty high, I aimed under the black center circle (because I couldn't see my iron sights line up otherwise) 2nd photo are the first 50 shots I took at 10-12meter = about 11-13 yards, as you can see by aiming just under the black center circle I shot most nicely in the black, pretty nice for a 100 year old gun that's been dug up, had a few run-aways but I think that was of fatigue by shooting one handed, not used to that,

3rd photo I shot about half a box (25 bullets) at 18-20m = about 20-22 yards, and the shots where way high to the right, was predictable as they where also a bit high at 10-12m, last 25 was back at 10-12m

Must say I love shooting the P08, very stable and not really that heavy, very smooth trigger, just a few times the toggle didn't cycle the bullet correctly, and bullet got stuck croocked, but nothing serious, noticed the mag had the tendencey to make the bullets stick a little, so I think that's the problem, as a member here replied he thought he saw a little dent in the mag, I believe he is right and I'm going to try and find another mag, original or repro so this original mag doesn't parrish,

As I told one of the clubs instructors I have a P08 he told me to speak to an old member of the club about the dangers of shooting modern day bullets, that the higher charge in them is dangerous for breaking the gun, so I asked his oppinions, and he told me he blew out the toggle, just plain blasted out of his gun almost hitting him in the face, so he advised me to buy ammo with less charge or refill cases myself, so I am looking at buying bullets with a bit heavier head which need lees powder, the old man told me to buy ammo with a max velocity of 320m/s, about 1050ft/s, I researched the most availlable brands and found out that all 124gr bullets have a too high velocity, thinking of buying Geco 139gr bullets, they have a velocity of 310m/s and the head's wheight isn't too extreme, most other brands go from 124gr to 147gr, any thoughts on it, don't want to risk blowing up the toggle system,

Sorry for the long text, but I'm really happy about my buy